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A big group that will be worse off following the tax cuts

Posted by Trevor Mallard on March 11th, 2010

397,000 kiwi families currently live in homes rented from private landlords.

There are 189,100  individual landlords who own rental properties. Obviously most own one but some own  many properties but it averages out to about two.

The total projected revenue from eliminating the depreciation write off is $1.3b.  That involves housing rentals, industrial and commercial. Depreciation on housing is pretty much a fiction. It is real  on most industrial and some but not all commercial buildings.

The average is  $3,274 per rental property. 

There is currently a tight housing rental market in New Zealand and especially in Auckland. The tightening up of the tax approach around property owners liability for tax on capital gains is already pushing some landlords out of the market and causing rents to go up. Both TV channels have reported on this recently.

Landlords are making it clear that it is their intention to recover their extra costs (write off forgone). Of course they won’t be able to do it overnight – but they will over time.

My calculation is that the average residential rental property will inolve a loss of about $45 to the landlord v current depreciation arrangements.

(Average house price 416k but I’ve used median 360k. 2% depreciation = $7,200. 33c tax rate = $2,400 say $45 per week)

Can John Key guarantee that all families that rent their houses and get this increase as well as that in their GST will not be worse off.

And what does Bill English say. His rent was paid by the taxpayer for years because  he declared Dipton as his primary residence when he lived in Wellington.

But most of all who thinks it is fair that rents go up to give tax cuts of hundreds of dollars a week to the highest income earners in the country.

Not me.

Update  Comments below have suggested that my estimate is high because I haven’t taken out land prices. Other emails have suggested that there are higher depreciation rates and that because a proportion of rented premises are apartments land is not quite the issue some suggest. I’m happy to use the property investors $34/week figure for the purpose of the discussion. The post goes to the principle.


Tread carefully Mr Key

Posted by Rick Barker on February 2nd, 2010

Announcements drifting in the wind about possible tax changes for rental property have made a surprising number of people I know apprehensive.

This is a personal story from one of my friends, who takes good advice and works hard; he left school and got a trade, he is still on the tools, and after 30 years has paid off his house.  He rides a good second hand Harley, not new, has a five year old Jap import for a car, so there is nothing excessive there, but he is concerned.

He was told to save for his retirement, and he felt he needed to after all the changes to super; cuts to rates, taxes on it, increase in age of entitlement, constant speculation about more age increase, nothing was certain, so he started saving to look after himself.

The 1987 stock market crash made him justly nervous about investing there.  He remembers Ariadne and Mr Judge: Gold Corp and Mr Smith and November 1987 when people appeared to him to be dumping share script by the rubbish bag.

Leaving the money in the bank on fixed deposit didn’t seem good enough, as the rate of return was less than inflation, so it was being eaten away over time.

Investment companies were of little interest to him and he has watched a succession of them explode like a string of Chinese fireworks so he feels good about avoiding them.  The only thing left was a rental property, which he is paying off.

This man is no bludger, no rack rent landlord, he is not highly leveraged gambling on capital gain to off set other costs, he is a hard working Kiwi and a saver.  He has done what was asked of him and now he fears that he is to be punished some how for doing the right thing, saving prudently.  He saw a house as a good investment.  Property values might go down, but he would still have the house.  Tenants might be a problem, but he would still have the house and he was in control of his investment, he wasn’t in the hands of some young, out of control investment manager such was the case for former Bearings Bank investors.

He has been prudent and saved his hard earned cash.  I am surprised by the number of friends who are in a similar position with a rental property and who have asked me what is going on.  They include a journalist, teacher, shop manager, all walks of life; they are ordinary Kiwis who have done what was asked of them, to save for their retirement.

There must be thousands of people like this who own a house, flat, apartment which is their way of saving for that extra to help them with their retirement and good on them too.

I have told them that I have no inside information and know just what they do from the public record.  They all feel put upon by the implication in the papers and from the commentary that somehow they have been gaming the system, ripping off taxes and are somehow directly or indirectly to blame for the “imbalance’ in the tax system.

These people have all worked hard.  They have saved hard, forgone big holidays and other excesses in order to pay off their first house and then save for their second property, their retirement income.