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The curious case of the missing recovery

Posted by Darien Fenton on August 31st, 2010

Not much good news around about the NZ economy.

Standard & Poor Chief economist David Wyss told Auckland economists yesterday that there is a one in three chance of another crash and while the “recession is over”, it’s a very fragile recovery. NZ businesses say they cut too deep in the recession last year and are struggling to rebuild because many of the skilled workers they laid off have gone elsewhere – and who can blame them?  Tens of thousands got the chop with no redundancy pay and NZ wages and conditions are falling further and further behind Australia’s.  Confidence is faltering and today, our government will fork out around NZ$1.6 billion in taxpayers money to 35,000 depositers in South Canterbury Finance that were covered under the extended guarantee scheme.

The best our government can come up with?  Cut workers’ protection against unfair dismissal, restrict their access to union advice, cut their meals and rest breaks and put their holidays up for grabs.

You don’t have to go far to find some pretty grumpy voters. And they’re set to get a lot grumpier come the 1st October when GST goes up and most find that their tax cut has already been eaten up.

This clip from Jim Stanford (aka Lieutenant Stanfordo), who wrote “Economics for Everyone” has parallels, and also some warnings.  Paula Bennett’s Welfare Working Group has been promoting unemployment insurance, but look what happens to the workers who are laid off in this video.  Compulsory savings is an attractive idea, but without government guarantees, workers can end up getting nothing.  I hope someone makes a NZ version.


Goff does English (with a little bit of help from the ref)

Posted by Trevor Mallard on August 18th, 2010

Part 1:

Part 2:

From yesterday and doesn’t need much comment but there must be a limit to how long the Nacts will let English reply on behalf of the Prime Minister.

For those without broadband Hansard is below :-

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Asleep at the Wheel- an English Family Feud?

Posted by Grant Robertson on August 10th, 2010

A fascinating piece (not on-line it seems) in the Dom Post on Monday from Conor English, Chief Executive of Federated Farmers, and brother to Finance Minister Bill English. He asks the question in terms of the New Zealand economy- “are we asleep at the wheel?”.

This sounds oddly reminiscient of what the Labour Party has been telling Bill English and John Key for some time, that there is no plan. Conor English notes the seismic changes in the world economy and raises the resulting need for us to innovate and to grow our capital markets. He says

We need to focus on the strategic issues that matter. Are we asleep at the wheel, like Wellington was when it forgot to extend its runway for long haul planes? Will we only wake up to realise the world has passed us by and a real opportunity lost? Lets not sleep. Lets find a solution so future generations can benefit from our Kiwi ingenuity.

An interesting article, raising interesting issues. Could also be interesting to be a fly on the wall at the next English family get-together.


Government by Google

Posted by Grant Robertson on August 5th, 2010

A little bit of light relief for the end of the session. I asked the Minister of Finance ” Does he stand by his statement, ” if you know which websites to go to you can get access to high quality advice?”

This came from Bill English on Radio NZ in the wake of the announcement of the review of policy advice that had come up with a figure for the cost of advice by entering “policy” and “policies” in a search of the title field of Budget documents.

It was a pity that Gerry Brownlee was not chosen to answer. It would have been more fun with him, but still nice to have a bit of a laugh at the end of the session.


Corrections to be largest Govt Dept- This is ambitious for NZ?

Posted by Grant Robertson on July 2nd, 2010

Most readers will know that I am a supporter of a strong public service to ensure that all New Zealanders get the support and services they need.  But I find the story, Corrections to become monster department in this morning’s NZ Herald fundamentally depressing. Bill English says in the article

Corrections will be in two or three years the largest government department, bigger than the Ministry of Social Development or the Inland Revenue Department.”

This really is sad. As a country we are pouring in money to the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. What we should be doing is investing to stop the causes of crime. The investment that should be being made is in CYFS and MSD to support parents and families, in Education to support those identified early as struggling, in Health to make sure health problems that might effect learning or behaviour are dealt with early, in Housing to make sure everyone has a safe place to live and call their home.

The insane thing here is that Bill English seems to realise the problem, but in the article is talking about the government’s approach as if someone else is doing it.

“This shortfall could expand under more punitive justice measures, he warned. Every time you ask for harsher penalties, that shortfall gets bigger. You are part of the driver of the costs. Lock another person up that’s another $90,000 (a year) plus another $250,000 capital (spending).”

Take some responsibility Bill. This was the government that told us they were ambitious for New Zealand. What a load of spin and nonsense. This is simply a plan for giving out the easy “tough on crime” rhetoric, while doing nothing to make New Zealand safer by stopping the crime in the first place.


The Naked Economist: Part 2

Posted by David Cunliffe on June 30th, 2010

So what does the end of the Washington Consensus mean for economic policy?

Firstly, borne out of the Great recession, there are no certainties – including whether the recession is yet over or, as increasing numbers of pundits from Krugman and Stiglitz on down are warning, we are in for a further deflationary spiral. 

Assuming no immediate major further meltdowns, we can probably draw some interim conclusions.

First, stable inflation will continue to matter, but should not be the only policy target.  It follows that monetary policy cannot rest on one tool, the OCR.  The number of tools should always exceed the number of targets.  

The OCR is a poor tool to target excess risk taking or asset bubbles.  IMF Chief Economist Blanchard recommends combining monetary and regulatory policy, such as countercyclical liquidity and prudential ratios, and directly targeting problem sectors such as housing. 

If this sounds familiar, no wonder.  The Governor of our own Reserve Bank has been quietly moving towards this in line with the other G20 central banks.   Isn’t it ironic that in New Zealand the only institution really defending the old status quo is the Beehive. 

Second, realistic stable exchange rates are crucial to small, open, trading economies.  This is what our export sector has been saying for years.  Now the IMF recommends central banks use reserve accumulation and sterilised intervention to do just that.  Labour has pledged to investigate reasonable means to help reduce the volatility of the NZ dollar, one of the most outrageously over-traded currencies on the planet.

Third, when investors desert key markets, the case for publicly supplied finance (liquidity provision) can be compelling.  However that implies that there is monetary and/or fiscal headroom available to offset a major recession (not necessarily true of some of the major western economies, worryingly).

It also implies that once recovery is firmly in place stimulus can be eased off in a way that is scially and economically sustainable.  Arguably Cameron’s Tory Budget violates that principle with slash and burn polices that could tip the UK back into recession, and even deflation.

Finally, Blanchard recommends counter-cyclical fiscal policy, augmented where appropriate by automatic fiscal stabilisers such as cyclical investment tax credits or enhanced transfers to low-income households. 

Counter-cyclical fiscal settings are not new to us and were used successfully under the last Labour Government (which reduced net debt to zero alongside full employment).  But automating that process would require careful thought.  One option used in other small open economies like Singapore is a countercyclical savings policy.   

This is all food for thought.  It is high time for our government started thinking.  But increasingly New Zealanders are looking for fresh ideas in the absence of a Beehive that seems capable of new thinking.

In Part 3 I will point to some of the areas, post Budget 2010, where Labour believes a new emphasis is needed.


BUDGET 2010: feedback so far

Posted by David Cunliffe on June 22nd, 2010

Hi RA readers – I’ve been off air a bit lately due to running around the country on the post- Budget speaking tour, and because my laptop died!

Today parliament shifted into a new stage of the Budget debate – the Appropriations Bill that legitimises the Supplmentary Estimates (amended spending lines) between Budgets 2009 and 2010.   It was remarkable for what it does not say – nothing about a plan for protecting  jobs or lifting incomes during the worst of the Great Recession.   No new ideas over there.

Quick feedback from the Budget tour: spoke to about 20 groups, a mixture of Labour-organised public meetings, community sector groups and businesses.  Hard to tote up exactly but would have seen close to 800 people face to face: groups of 160 down to about 25, plus individual business site visits.

The feedback was clear:  most Kiwis understand that by the time inflation of 5.9% next year eats away the tax swindle, and wage growth is held down, they will be worse off.   That includes increased govt charges like ACC and ECE, plus power bills, rent and higher mortgages.  The Government made the classic mistake of overpromising and under-delivering.   Kiwis hate the rise in GST.   They know the tax cuts aimed primarily at the wealthy are unjust and inefficient. 

Was it a coincidence the govt’s polling fell 5% in the week after the Budget?   

Second, businesses and commentators understand that the Budget lacks a real plan for jobs, incomes and growth.  Fiscal prudence matters, but it is no substitute for a strategy to address the yawning triple deficit around the savings gap, current account deficit and innovation deficit.  Gutting Kiwisaver, the R and D tax credits and NZSF prefunding made these worse.  The Govt’s innovation package, which represents only 39% of the value earlier striped out, has been almost universally panned.     

Third, the added debt from the unaffordable tax cuts has opended up $1.1 bn fiscal hole over 4 years, $9.2bn over 12 years, and that makes the job of turning the boat around ever harder.  National will seek to fill this “strategic deficit”  through asset sales and service cuts.  Don’t let them!

Future posts are going to broaden out somewhat to the rlated issues of monetary and fiscal settings that surround the needed economic strategy.


BUDGET 2010: English – A Fudge Too Far

Posted by David Cunliffe on June 1st, 2010

Good fun in the House today grilling Bill English here and here on why the Government’s online tax/benefit calulator leaves out the forecast inflation rate of 5.9% in 2010, and thus overstates benefits.  Its a blatant case of misleading the public.   The Speaker rules it is a straight question that deserves a fair answer: Bill English doesn’t get it, and digs a hole deeper than the original mistake…

…It would be funny except it has misled many average income Kiwis who were encouraged by the Govt to believe that the budget left them “better off”, when in reality it left them behind until at least 2014.   It will be no fun at the checkout queue for many hard working families.


BUDGET 2010: Jigsaw Pieces Click

Posted by David Cunliffe on June 1st, 2010

The jigsaw pireces of the Budget are starting to click in the public mind if recent polls are any indication.  In the last week :

  • The IMF described NZ’s savings gap and net international indebtedness as “among the largest of any advanced nation”
  • Analysis shows a $9.2bn additional fiscal hole in the Budget by 2023 arising from the tax changes
  • Budget documents show expenditure as a % of GDP falling from 33% to 28%
  • Bill English floats Kiwibank sale as one example of a number of SOEs ripe for partial privatisation.

In other words: give away taxes up front (very largely to their mates); run an out year deficit (deliberately); compress spending (as ‘prudence ” then demands); and flog off what is left of the family silver to fill the remaining gap (dressed up as mum and dad savings products, of course).

What does all this mean for the average Kiwi?

  • despite the govt spin, they are worse off for the next four years at least due to the toxic cocktail of GST, inflation, other govt charges and taxes, and slow wage growth;
  • public services like Heatlh and Early Childhood Education will be slashed as new spending lags inflation ($300m short in Health) or deliberate policy changes bite;
  • the outlook for public services gets dramatically worse as the National Party tries to resize the state to 28% of GDP – although they won’t want to talk much about that before the election;
  • the underlying economic problems reamin unresolved and get more intractable over time.   There is no credible plan for growth and jobs.

Moral of story: do NOT let National get a second term   Stop the malign juggernaut before it does irrepairable damage.


Public Service Numbers

Posted by Grant Robertson on May 27th, 2010

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In Parliament we have to put up with day in and day out Bill English simply making things up about Labour’s record in government.  To give him credit his devotion to the messages created by Crosby Textor is something to behold.  David Parker did a great response to his rubbish recently.  

Today in Question Time we had the usual nonsense about “out of control” growth in public spending.  I tabled the graph above that appears in the Institute of Policy Studies publication The Future State, and is from State Services Commission data that shows all elements of the wider state sector decling or remaining steady as a percentage of the total labour force, including the core public sector.

 Mr English said I could “use any figures I like” to defend my position.  No, not any figures I like, the ones from the State Services Commisssion- the government’s advisor on State Services.


BUDGET 2010: Strategic Deficits and Fiscal Risks

Posted by David Cunliffe on May 27th, 2010

Budget 2010 was not fiscally neutral.  To fund its large tax cuts package of  $14.5 billion the government has borrowed an extra $1.1 billion over four years.

The Crown borrowing requirement rises and interest costs roughly double before declining around 2021.

The current account widens from 3% to 7% over the forecast period.  The trend in net internation investment remains negative.

Longer term the fiscal aggregates look even worse.  We will have more to say about this in due course.

Meantime the world around us is poised on the cusp of a potential double-dip recession.  Germany’s voters are tiring of socialising the Eurozone’s mounting deficits.  The US and UK are already running huge deficits and accumulating debt due in part to the last round of fiscal stimulus.

World markets are highly fragile.  Korea and the Gulf of Mexico mean we don’t need too much else to go wrong.

Why has National strained the fiscal envelope so far while achieving so little economic return?

Treasury forecasts less than 1% additional GDP growth from Budget 2010 measures accumulatng over 7 years.

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Kiwibank CEO resigns

Posted by David Cunliffe on May 26th, 2010

Bill English has got more explaining to do now than when John Key rang to tear strips off him after his gaffe on selling KiwiBank last Friday.

English was clearly guilty of saying what he really thought when there were no cameras in the room (sounds like an earlier National Party conference remark.)  Unfortunately there were print journos taking notes.  Ooops.

This morning Kiwbank’s highly regarded CEO Sam knowles announced his resignation.

We do not know why yet.

It may be coincidence that just days after the MOF says he wants to flog off the Bank, which has grown amazingly well within NZ Post Group and is now a significant competitive force in the market, its excellent CEO resigns.

It may be coincidence that John Key was apparently furious with English after Friday’s loose lips blew a hole in the Govt’s post budget spin, and spent much of the last two days in damage control.   The issue has reportedly widened the gap between the Beehive’s 9th (PM) and 7th (MOF) floors.

This is a gathering storm.

The economics of retaining KiwiBank in public hands are overwhelming.

The issue demonstrates with crystal clarity that the Govt has not got a strategic clue about our long term financial future.  We MUST have a stake in our financial system.  It is only some 7% of the market but it is crucial to assist the competitive dynamics and local capital formation.

Just how much pressure was put on Key, by whom?  On English in the last week?  On Knowles?  Over what period?

One thing is clear – the Govt has enraged 700,000 plus loyal cutomers of KiwiBank who CHOSE to belong.  My email is running white hot.

The Govt now has serious governance questions to deal with amidst the resignation of a stellar CEO.

Watch this space.


BUDGET 2010: The Sucker Punch

Posted by David Cunliffe on May 25th, 2010

We all know Budget 2010 was full of broken promises – from NOT raising GST  – to being “fiscally neutral” while borrowing an extra $1.1 billion to fund tax cuts - to being “fair” while giving a third of all those tax rebate $ to the top 5%.

Most people now realise that the gains they thought they might get are more apparent than real:  the proof – even on the Governmnet’s own numbers average gross incomes don’t catch up with inflation unitl 2014!  That’s two elections away!

 Most now know the results are economically desultory – the current account blows out to 7% of GDP, growth is static (taking 7 years to accumulate a measley 1% extra), and what empoyment growth there is is largely unrelated to Budget meaures.  

What has become clearer as the debate has progressed is just how cynically National has attempted to buy votes through a Budget increasingly seen as highly political.   John Armstrong - who is no Labour acolyte to say the least – politely nailed that in Saturday’s Herald.

The game afoot is this: fool middle income voters into thinking they have a win.  Push through much larger tax cuts for the upper end under this smokescreen.  Deliberately stretch the government balance sheet by borrowing more to fund the cuts.  Begin compressing public services, but slowly, and hope the rosy glow lasts until the election…

But Bill English could not help the Freudian slip about selling off KiwiBank.  (As if anyone believes that a mom-and-pop share issue would mean shares didn’t end up in institutional hands eventually – remember Contact Energy?)

This is important as a foretaste of things to come: extensive privatisation of assets the public already owns, and deep Budget cuts to balance the books that this Government has deliberately run up by cutting taxes too far.   Both add up to shrinking the state, and with it the essential services that all Kiwi families need.

Budget 2010 is not a step change,  and not a step up.  It’s a set up - a sucker punch for the full flowering of the Right’s agenda should New Zelanders allow them a second term.


English – Assets for sale next term – Kiwibank first on block

Posted by Stuart Nash on May 22nd, 2010

Well, at least its out there now – http://tinyurl.com/2c3b273 - Bill English has signalled that assets will be sold if the Nats win another term. First on the block – Kiwibank. 

At Labour’s banking inquiry earlier this year, an analyst said that the introduction of Kiwibank had saved New Zealanders about a $1,000,000,000 in interest payments due to competitive pressure it had bought to the market.

Selling Kiwibank (and other assets) would be a disaster for the country – and is certainly something Labour would never ever contemplate. 

The true Nat agenda (as if we didn’t know) is at least not so secret anymore…


BUDGET 2010: Pass the Berocca

Posted by David Cunliffe on May 21st, 2010

After the beehive-spin induced euphoia wears off and the hangover sets in, middle New Zealand will reach for the Berocca and try to work out what the Budget really means for them.

Not to add to the inevitable headache, but here are a few of the facts of life for the morning after.

  1. For at least 3/4, and maybe 90% of the country, by the time they eat a whopping 5.9% inflation next year (Treasury Budget forecasts, not NZLP numbers!) they will be worse off until at lesst 2012/13.   For a family with 2 kids on $72k for example, $55 a week worse off.
  2. That inflation will feed into mortgage costs and rent rises.  It will result, quite rightly, in pent up wage demands from workers who have gone without wage rises for the last two years. 
  3. While its ok that the middle income brackets got some income tax relief, and would have likely got more relief from us, the tax cuts are way too skewed to the top.  You just can’t get around the fact that someone earning a $million a year gets $1000 a week back.  That is going to make the haves/have nots gap wider.  And that gap will inevitably worsen over time, undermining the Kiwi dream and taking us further from the “fair go for all” kind of place we want to be.
  4. That is made worse by the underlying agenda of shrinking the state and the services it can provide.  We have already seen home help for the elderly branded “low quality” spend and cut.  Health’s new money in the Budget is, we reckon, about $270 m short of standing still given next year’s inflation forecast.  That means more cuts to the services and more pain for the vulnerable.
  5. My personal gripe is early childhood education.  What has the Govt got against quality preschool education?  Why is it swiping $100m pa from that?  Labour will lead in this area and every family with young kids will hear us. 
  6. Rebalancing the econmy is way undercooked.  Take away the smoke and mirrors of the tax switch, and we are still left with residual taxt incentives for property and LAQC avoidance mechanisms.   Proof:  LAQCs sheltered $2.3 billion of taxes in 2008.  The tinkering in the Budget trimmed only $70m p.a. of that.  
  7. There is STILL no credible plan for growth in this Budget.  The National Govt seems intent in relying on “passive” instruments. I have no problem with dropping the company rate – provided the fiscal balance can support decent public services (personal view – see “About” on the blog site) – but that cannot be enough to get the export sector going on its own.  What about the R and D tax credits?

The strucutral problem remains: we don’t export enough, we don’t save enough, and we don’t innovate enough.  As an economy we are short on capital, technology, skills and IP.  Budget 2010 does not fix that.  Time is short and the job is urgent.  When NZ wants positive action, Labour will be ready to lead.

As the bubbly wears off in the Beehive and the Berocca gets passed around the country; the poor, the forgotten middle class and the structural problems of the economy have not been moved forward by this Budget.

It remains a suger-coated tax swindle.

It remains a step back, not a step up, and certainly not a step change.


BUDGET 2010: Broken Promises and Lost Opportunities

Posted by David Cunliffe on May 20th, 2010

Budget 2010 is a tax swindle, a lost opportunity and a massive broken promise to New Zealanders.

It rewards the wealthiest, but swindles the middle class by gobbling up their small change tax switch in the highest (5.9%) inflation in decades.

Most Kiwis tax cuts will be wiped out by inflation before they even get to the checkout.

By the Government’s own figures an average wage earner will be $30 a week worse off after inflation and a person on $70, 000 will be $45 a week worse off.

The tax cuts are unfair; a third goes to the top five percent and fifteen percent goes to the top one percent. People in the middle and bottom will go backwards after inflation.

The upper income tax cuts are unaffordable. The Government is borrowing an extra $450 m next year, and a billion over 4 years.

This Budget therefore breaks a string of hollow promises:

  • not to raise GST
  • to leave the “vast majority” of Kiwis better off – most won’t be after inflation and rent taxes
  • to be fiscally neutral: the Budget borrows $450 m next year to fund upper income tax cuts
  • to return to prefunding superannuation when in surplus (no prefunding until 2019, surplus 2016)
  • to compensate pensioners and Working for Families recipients for ST (this a one-off, not indexed)
  • to maintain Health and Education: wrong – Health is some $300m p.a short of keeping up. Education some $200m p.a short; including a savage $120m cut to Early Childhood Education.
  • to rebalance the property/business tax divide: this is underwhelming – building depreciation is partially taxed, but there is no ring fencing of losses; and the changes to LAQC and PIE rules are minor.

Overall the Budget fails both tests of fairness and growing jobs and incomes.

Lower and middle income earners are left behind while the top end reaps a windfall.

The old, the young, the sick and frail are left worse off.

The Government is borrowing to favour its mates, once again.

It is a tax swindle, a lost opportunity and massive broken promise.


BUDGET 2010: Neither Fair Nor Fixing

Posted by David Cunliffe on May 20th, 2010

It’s Budget Day.  You’ll be hearing lots from us over the next few days and I hope many of you will join our Finance Team live here on Red Alert tonight at 8.30 pm.

Most New Zealanders already understand that a Budget that (at best) delivers only marginal gain to middle and lower income earners and a whopping great windfall to the top end, is not fair.  It is however, precsely what you would expect from National.

Equally important, the Budget as it has been foreshadowed will not fix the underlying problems of this economy: lack of savings, skills, innovation and exports.  These are exactly the themes Labour is pushing – as reflected in todays Dominion and Herald (note the Herald got the headline wrong).

If you don’t believe me on this – just refer to Swtizerland’s IMD World Competitiveness Ranking, which shows NZ slipping back for exactly the reasons Labour has been saying. 

Think about it, if the problems are insufficient savings, exports, skills and innovation, how on earth is raising GST and an income tax windfall for the wealthiest possibly going to address that?

It proves our underlying critique of this visionless National Government -  they had “nine long years” to think up policies to take the country forward, to deliver on the step change they campaigned for – and so far, nothing.


Let’s see the govt explain this away

Posted by Clare Curran on May 20th, 2010

New Zealand has slipped five places to 20th out of 58 economies measured on the world competitiveness scoreboard according to the just released IMD World Competitiveness Yearbook.

The slip has significantly worsened the trans Tasman gap with Australia improving two places to now rank 5th in the world.

Smoke and mirrors won’t explain this away.  Bill English and John Key, you are the guys accountable.


BUDGET 2010: Will they fix the rorts?

Posted by David Cunliffe on May 19th, 2010

Interesting piece in the Dom front page today about the tax avoidance around trusts – but mostly interesting for what it does not say. 

The National government has spent much of the last year cutting “low quality” services like home help for frail elderly because of the supposed fiscal crunch.

Tomorrow they will announce billion dollar plus tax cuts, overwhelmingly benefitting the wealthy few, while the many just tread water in the face of rising GST, rent, power and food costs. 

They lamely justify the top end tax cut as either a growth stimulant (which is nonsense – much more stimulus results from good investments or tax cuts at lower income bands)…

…or a way or retaining talent (branding Kiwis as “envious” is rubbish, as not all talented people are wealthy and NZ already has the third lowest taxes in the OECD!  Our real need is to lift wages and sustainably grow the economy)….

….or a way of stopping the $300 m tax fiddle arising from the abuse of Trusts.  Ironically the way they plan to do that is by giving all top rate earners the same rate as if they too werre fiddling.  (Of course, without sin there would be no sinners)….

But here’s the real rub: even that trust tax avoidance is puny compared with the writeoffs around loss attributing companies (LAQCs) – $2.3 billion in 2008 alone.   Plus a $500m writeoff around rental property losses.  Plus more around the abuse of savings vehicle (portfolio investment entities – PIEs). 

Not to mention the wider issue of the income/capital boundary and the incentives created to hock off small companies too soon, taking the tax free proceeds to buy the bach and the BMW rather than to grow the business.

Does this government have the nerve to address these issues, which have spiralled out of control since the election?   Or will it just continue to take home help off oldies and special ed services off crippled kids?  Will it penny pinch on night classes while boosting private schools? 

Will it stop the rorts?  Is it capable of governing for the many not the few? 

Increasingly, Kiwis are coming around to the view that it cannot, but Labour can and will.


Key drops conflict standards

Posted by Trevor Mallard on May 19th, 2010

Interesting question yesterday from Pete  – Key shot through before it had to be answered and left the Dipton double dipper to defend his old brat pack mate.

The Cabinet Manual is a set of rules designed to keep us open, transparent and free from corruption.

Key appears to want us to trust ministers to do the right thing. Bolger, Shipley and Clark ran much tighter ships.

Appearance of conflict of interest is a problem as well as actual conflict.

Hon PETE HODGSON (Labour-Dunedin North) to the Prime Minister: During Cabinet or Cabinet committee consideration of the policy and legislation concerning Environment Canterbury did his Minister for the Environment declare any conflict of interest regarding his family; if so, what did he declare?

Hon BILL ENGLISH (Deputy Prime Minister) on behalf of the Prime Minister: The Prime Minister is satisfied that Ministers are aware of the guidance in the Cabinet Manual about conflicts of interest and he would expect them to declare an interest in an issue where a conflict actually exists. No Ministers declared a conflict during Cabinet or Cabinet committee consideration of the legislation concerning Environment Canterbury.

Hon Pete Hodgson: Why did he allow Dr Smith to stay in the room when the Government’s approach to Environment Canterbury was being discussed, given that his brother was charged by Environment Canterbury on 21 counts arising from a police-accompanied inspection of his premises last June?

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