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	<title>Comments on: More irrational cuts to education &#8211; What was Tolley thinking&#8230; or was she thinking?</title>
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		<title>By: Collette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Collette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;More irrational cuts to education - What was Tolley thinking… or was she thinking?&quot;

Well we know the answer to this... Just in case we all missed it before, Tolley seems quite happy to continue to prove her absolute and embarassing lack of understanding of education within New Zealand. Wonderful initiatives which have made real progress in raising student achievement levels are being ditched, and for what reason? Is it not clear that enabling our young people to realise their potential is one excellent way to minimise future, potentially highly costly social problems in this country? Is it not obvious that encouraging our citizens to succeed sows the seeds for some very positive returns in terms of our country&#039;s ability to prosper in a global economy. Why is Tolley being so short-sighted and ignorant of our Nations needs? It is an insult to educators and an affront to us all that National would put someone as lacking as Tolley is, in charge of the education port-folio. In the meantime, educator&#039;s who know the true worth of these programmes can but mourn their loss.

For shame National.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;More irrational cuts to education &#8211; What was Tolley thinking… or was she thinking?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well we know the answer to this&#8230; Just in case we all missed it before, Tolley seems quite happy to continue to prove her absolute and embarassing lack of understanding of education within New Zealand. Wonderful initiatives which have made real progress in raising student achievement levels are being ditched, and for what reason? Is it not clear that enabling our young people to realise their potential is one excellent way to minimise future, potentially highly costly social problems in this country? Is it not obvious that encouraging our citizens to succeed sows the seeds for some very positive returns in terms of our country&#8217;s ability to prosper in a global economy. Why is Tolley being so short-sighted and ignorant of our Nations needs? It is an insult to educators and an affront to us all that National would put someone as lacking as Tolley is, in charge of the education port-folio. In the meantime, educator&#8217;s who know the true worth of these programmes can but mourn their loss.</p>
<p>For shame National.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie - I am sure the COMET crew will continue with the work in the imporatant area of ECE co-ordination. I was involved in some work around provision of ECE services when I worked there and we need more more more!

The COMET team met with John Key today in Otara so fingers crossed that they can convince him to overturn Tolleys decision</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie &#8211; I am sure the COMET crew will continue with the work in the imporatant area of ECE co-ordination. I was involved in some work around provision of ECE services when I worked there and we need more more more!</p>
<p>The COMET team met with John Key today in Otara so fingers crossed that they can convince him to overturn Tolleys decision</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s aspirational about this Govt which preached aspiration when they were campaigning but is cutting people off at the knees who are trying to better themselves given their circumstances.  Im thinking of my local area, of the solo mums/young women who studied foundation courses through ACE as a stepping stone into M.I.T but thanks to the cuts in education, the opportunity at this social service no longer exists.  Im thinking of the English language courses at the local secondary school through ACE that was well used by the neighbouring refugee centre, their stepping stone into communicating in our society has also been removed.
there is no equity and no fairness in cutting funds here and increasing amounts to private schools.  I have no confidence in this Minister of Education, the decisions she has made have been disgraceful, I can understand the need for cuts in this recession on the one hand but then giving out money to private schools on the other hand, doesnt make sense and smacks of cronyism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s aspirational about this Govt which preached aspiration when they were campaigning but is cutting people off at the knees who are trying to better themselves given their circumstances.  Im thinking of my local area, of the solo mums/young women who studied foundation courses through ACE as a stepping stone into M.I.T but thanks to the cuts in education, the opportunity at this social service no longer exists.  Im thinking of the English language courses at the local secondary school through ACE that was well used by the neighbouring refugee centre, their stepping stone into communicating in our society has also been removed.<br />
there is no equity and no fairness in cutting funds here and increasing amounts to private schools.  I have no confidence in this Minister of Education, the decisions she has made have been disgraceful, I can understand the need for cuts in this recession on the one hand but then giving out money to private schools on the other hand, doesnt make sense and smacks of cronyism.</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t it the COMET adult literacy programme that Local Government Minister Rortney Hide lauded to the rafters at the last local government conference as an exemplary example of how local government should work? Get stuck in to them, Carmel. Also, pity the corporate sector is too busy buying Audis to front up with some genuine sponsorship for this brilliant programme. Maybe some of their ex-staffers could shake a few pennies loose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t it the COMET adult literacy programme that Local Government Minister Rortney Hide lauded to the rafters at the last local government conference as an exemplary example of how local government should work? Get stuck in to them, Carmel. Also, pity the corporate sector is too busy buying Audis to front up with some genuine sponsorship for this brilliant programme. Maybe some of their ex-staffers could shake a few pennies loose?</p>
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		<title>By: Banksie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banksie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is some irony in the fact that you managed to misspell &#039;literacy&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some irony in the fact that you managed to misspell &#8216;literacy&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul
So true and so sad.
My children aren&#039;t in school yet, have just over 2 years until that. I hope labour will be back in by then so this doesn&#039;t affect them. It’s ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul<br />
So true and so sad.<br />
My children aren&#8217;t in school yet, have just over 2 years until that. I hope labour will be back in by then so this doesn&#8217;t affect them. It’s ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Fairey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Fairey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume the cut will also sadly put the Manukau Early Childhood Taskforce work in jeopardy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume the cut will also sadly put the Manukau Early Childhood Taskforce work in jeopardy?</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for the City Of Manukau Education Trust (COMET) for over 2 years and have seen first hand the difference this programme makes. Check out the site.
www.comet.org.nz

When I was there we got PWC to do a report on the economic value added to the families and communities through this programme. The full report is on the website under MFLP but this is the summary

&quot;Credit Value - The tertiary partner delivers a programme which provides the adult learner with valid credits for ongoing learning or future employment. The credit value offers a pathway out of poverty for families: the PricewaterhouseCoopers report valued this at over $200 per week for a family.&quot;

And we have seen those outcomes - many of the parents got degrees and other qualifications that they never would have had. They are now earning and reinvesting into the economy more money. They are not on benefits - everything the National Govt claims to be important - they have rejected by cutting this funding.

There is also a Parenting componant in the programme - I have met family literacy parents who said that they now know about their childs growth and development through this programme - they now know other ways to discipine without smacking and its life changing.

What I know is that you cant just give money to the teritary provider and the early childhood provider - this programme worked because COMET workers did the pastoral care, we developed the programmes, we found money for glasses for students who needed them and couldnt study without them. Every reason those parents had to give up, we did everything within our power to make the ride smooth for them - as smooth as my time through Uni was. We worked to give them every oppotunity to suceed and the National Party has taken this away.

I am devestated that this programme has been cut because it is everything this Government has said that they support.  I shouldnt be surprised but I am constantly surprised about how this country has changed in the last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for the City Of Manukau Education Trust (COMET) for over 2 years and have seen first hand the difference this programme makes. Check out the site.<br />
<a href="http://www.comet.org.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.comet.org.nz</a></p>
<p>When I was there we got PWC to do a report on the economic value added to the families and communities through this programme. The full report is on the website under MFLP but this is the summary</p>
<p>&#8220;Credit Value &#8211; The tertiary partner delivers a programme which provides the adult learner with valid credits for ongoing learning or future employment. The credit value offers a pathway out of poverty for families: the PricewaterhouseCoopers report valued this at over $200 per week for a family.&#8221;</p>
<p>And we have seen those outcomes &#8211; many of the parents got degrees and other qualifications that they never would have had. They are now earning and reinvesting into the economy more money. They are not on benefits &#8211; everything the National Govt claims to be important &#8211; they have rejected by cutting this funding.</p>
<p>There is also a Parenting componant in the programme &#8211; I have met family literacy parents who said that they now know about their childs growth and development through this programme &#8211; they now know other ways to discipine without smacking and its life changing.</p>
<p>What I know is that you cant just give money to the teritary provider and the early childhood provider &#8211; this programme worked because COMET workers did the pastoral care, we developed the programmes, we found money for glasses for students who needed them and couldnt study without them. Every reason those parents had to give up, we did everything within our power to make the ride smooth for them &#8211; as smooth as my time through Uni was. We worked to give them every oppotunity to suceed and the National Party has taken this away.</p>
<p>I am devestated that this programme has been cut because it is everything this Government has said that they support.  I shouldnt be surprised but I am constantly surprised about how this country has changed in the last year.</p>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its so wrong its upsetting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its so wrong its upsetting.</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they&#039;ve destroyed something excellent that was working just for the sake of inventing something else with their names on it? :x Really Ruining Resources :evil:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they&#8217;ve destroyed something excellent that was working just for the sake of inventing something else with their names on it? <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':x' class='wp-smiley' />  Really Ruining Resources <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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