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	<title>Comments on: No delays in broadband rollout? Yeah right!</title>
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		<title>By: A Pirate</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Pirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one point, has anyone considered the fact that this will only improve NZ internet traffic, not international?
We need additional undersea cables linking up to NZ, which will encourage ISPs to increase the traffic allowed in our plans.
This Gnational government isn&#039;t getting alternative cables laid for our international traffic, so where&#039;s the announcement of extra internet services? Like, where is the point of only upgrading the NZ internet only, if there isn&#039;t that much new content on it? I want international connections improved too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one point, has anyone considered the fact that this will only improve NZ internet traffic, not international?<br />
We need additional undersea cables linking up to NZ, which will encourage ISPs to increase the traffic allowed in our plans.<br />
This Gnational government isn&#8217;t getting alternative cables laid for our international traffic, so where&#8217;s the announcement of extra internet services? Like, where is the point of only upgrading the NZ internet only, if there isn&#8217;t that much new content on it? I want international connections improved too.</p>
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		<title>By: oidville rothschild</title>
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		<dc:creator>oidville rothschild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a few years ago we had the new zealand post office.it ran the phone service.it had specialised linesman with specialised equipment,its own engineers its own design team.they did this type of work and if they hadn&#039;t have sold off we would have had broadband by now.to give the public broadband you must first have the right people to do it.but this is what happens when you privatise some govt departments like railways etc.milton fraudman and the chicago school of economics has destroyed a lot of peoples lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a few years ago we had the new zealand post office.it ran the phone service.it had specialised linesman with specialised equipment,its own engineers its own design team.they did this type of work and if they hadn&#8217;t have sold off we would have had broadband by now.to give the public broadband you must first have the right people to do it.but this is what happens when you privatise some govt departments like railways etc.milton fraudman and the chicago school of economics has destroyed a lot of peoples lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare Curran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare Curran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ bikerkiwi and David Farrar. Must have hit a nerve David, if you feel the need to rush to defend Steven Joyce on kiwblog. http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/09/fisking_clare.html

You know very well that there has been an extraordinary delay this year, while the government actually worked out how to deliver its policy. And you know that many many industry players have become increasingly agitated about it.

In 2008, the Oz government released a policy to deliver broadband for around $4.7 billion. Just as they were about to proceed with it earlier this year, they abruptly cancelled it and decided to grasp the mettle and get the issue right (intervention from Kevin Rudd I believe). The redeveloped policy proposal was estimated to cost around $43 billion. This is true ambition for that country.

Perhaps this is the dilemma that Steven Joyce is facing, and I have blogged on that before too. He was sold a pup. He&#039;s not doing a bad job, he&#039;s a smart cookie (I can be nice Steven) and I think he genuinely wants to get it right. Not sure he can within the current policy parameters. That&#039;s what I&#039;m saying, and I&#039;ll keep saying it and I&#039;ve got more coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ bikerkiwi and David Farrar. Must have hit a nerve David, if you feel the need to rush to defend Steven Joyce on kiwblog. <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/09/fisking_clare.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/09/fisking_clare.html</a></p>
<p>You know very well that there has been an extraordinary delay this year, while the government actually worked out how to deliver its policy. And you know that many many industry players have become increasingly agitated about it.</p>
<p>In 2008, the Oz government released a policy to deliver broadband for around $4.7 billion. Just as they were about to proceed with it earlier this year, they abruptly cancelled it and decided to grasp the mettle and get the issue right (intervention from Kevin Rudd I believe). The redeveloped policy proposal was estimated to cost around $43 billion. This is true ambition for that country.</p>
<p>Perhaps this is the dilemma that Steven Joyce is facing, and I have blogged on that before too. He was sold a pup. He&#8217;s not doing a bad job, he&#8217;s a smart cookie (I can be nice Steven) and I think he genuinely wants to get it right. Not sure he can within the current policy parameters. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m saying, and I&#8217;ll keep saying it and I&#8217;ve got more coming.</p>
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		<title>By: ghostwhowalksnz</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghostwhowalksnz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats the bet Joyce gets a promotion before anything starts, so its back to the beginning for a new Minister such as  Williamson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats the bet Joyce gets a promotion before anything starts, so its back to the beginning for a new Minister such as  Williamson</p>
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		<title>By: bikerkiwi</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2009/09/24/no-delays-in-broadband-rollout-yeah-right/comment-page-1/#comment-11568</link>
		<dc:creator>bikerkiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting review of this post over at Kiwiblog:  http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/09/fisking_clare.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting review of this post over at Kiwiblog:  <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/09/fisking_clare.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/09/fisking_clare.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it would be nice to have the broadband up and running!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it would be nice to have the broadband up and running!</p>
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		<title>By: Fisking Clare &#124; Kiwiblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisking Clare &#124; Kiwiblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Curran has blogged at Red Alert: Communications and IT</description>
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