Comments on: By The Numbers

By: Si

Si — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:19:28 +0000

Ok, I’ll indulge. Read the following and point out where it proves / disproves eithe Dr Tucker’s or Mr Goff’s version of events. No record does not mean it did not happen. Now I think that John Key’s looking a little suspect on this one, and don’t slavishly fall into belief due to some shared ideology that some appear unable to look past. Like I said I find it very difficult to trust a word that comes from any politician.

By: bbfloyd

bbfloyd — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:49:22 +0000

@ si si… you can’t go further… your comment has been well and truly discredited… just deal with it like a “grownup”…

Try it like this… Johnny sparkles had “brain fade” over the fact that he knew much more than he would admit…. Phil Goff was proven right, even though the dissimilarities in those occurrences was, and is still being deliberately ignored, or suppressed by the fourth estate, and tory commentators… for obvious reasons….

By: Si

Si — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:53:23 +0000

Anne, I’m not going to further on this, but would suggest you hunt out the article.

By: Anne

Anne — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:32:16 +0000

Glad you noticed Si. After all it was started by Si’s provocative (and incorrect) comment on 6th Oct. @ 5:26pm.

By: Si

Si — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:48:05 +0000

Look what happens when we all play nice.

By: Spud

Spud — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:38:03 +0000

By: Anne

Anne — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:02:01 +0000

Rob S @ 9:59pm

Fair enough – a reasonable response.Thanks.

I remember linking Red Alert (in a comment) to one of the online reports re-the back-down of the SIS Director, and I recollect others did so too. He admitted there was nothing on file to indicate he had briefed Goff on the Israeli spy story. I give him credit for that admission because he could easily have said nothing. It was around August last year from memory but I haven’t been able to locate it.

By: Si

Si — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 04:44:37 +0000

Agreed Rob, it’s vitally important that all sides are up to speed on security issues and are at least able to sing off the same same song sheet even if to a different tune.

By: Spud

Spud — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 03:37:43 +0000

That sounds like a good idea

By: Rob S

Rob S — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 02:26:25 +0000

Regardless of who was right, hopefully out of all of this came some way of recording acknowledgements, something as simple as the entity being notified singing next to the item on the meeting record/agenda as received would be easy enough to implement (maybe it already happens now).

I think the bipartisan nature of these briefings is important, and what did concern me (to flip-flop sides for a minute) is that Goff suggested in one article that he wasn’t getting the same level of briefing. Perhaps they should even be in the same room, the PM and Shadow PM are hardly going to let each other miss a trick!