Comments on: By The Numbers

By: Paul B

Paul B — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:49:13 +0000

How about an addition to ‘Numbers
“1″, One, Smirking Collins!
Minister Collins was the smirking coackroach when declaring that there would be no increase in alcohol price to deter binge drinking. Beware… the cunning Key cabinet is undoubtably even now setting up ‘ecobulb’ or ‘slow flow shower’ situations to hype, come the election.
Collins was was truely creepy to see, so smug was she in the initial execution of an evil plan to help win later.
Like the driving alcohol limit, National insists on waiting for research when all the world knows the answer.
Anyhow , go careful lest you are trapped into an honourable course, but consequently defeated. Remember Nordmeyer – do not create a ‘black election’ for us.
Raising the price of the workingmans drug is political suicide, particularly for a party of the left, alone.

By: The Al1en

The Al1en — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:23:00 +0000

You’re missing the point, pete. One has to make a noise to be heard.
Doors don’t open themselves. Sometimes you’ve got to twist and turn a knob or two if you want to make it through, if know what I mean?

I’ll give that one for free to the first shadow front bencher to claim it, as long as they promise to use it at question time, next sitting day.
Next one’s gonna cost you, though

By: Pete George

Pete George — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:49:11 +0000

“It was only Phil Goff coming out swinging during the tv debates that saved Labour the embarrassment of”…having an bigger record poor performance.

Some party faithful seem to think Goff campaigned well, but many (including a lot of voters) saw Labour’s campaign as awful.

Remember how Labour MPs noticeably left Goff out of their advertising and billboards? Come to think of it I don’t remember hearing Phil Goff being praised by either Dunedin Labour candidate right through the campaign.

And then the presidential campaign focussed on Goff despite him having already proven he wasn’t what the country wanted.

By: OneTrack

OneTrack — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:42:48 +0000

“This leadership issue is a Red Herring, we will have a Labour/Greens/Maori/NZF? ”

Ok, nothing to worry about then. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Just a little question though, who will be the PM in 2014 – Metiria?(why not, are you sexist) Russel? David 1? David 2? David 3? Hone? Winston? And that leads to what will the combined agenda look like.

By: The Al1en

The Al1en — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:24:42 +0000

The nats and their media told us in 2008 that attack politics was distasteful to kiwi voters, despite having spent the past three years in the gutter slinging mud at anything in red that moved.
It was only Phil Goff coming out swinging during the tv debates that saved Labour the embarrassment of being worse than Bill English (Anyone double checking his expenses for this week?).

The thing is, if the party strategists now agree with the ‘growing concensus’ – Read as press position, and do step up the opposing bit of opposition, that’s twice they’ve had to rely on external cues, and they’re now sitting at 0/2, well outside rusty tin medal contention.
Performance reviews, anyone?

By: Pete George

Pete George — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:46:08 +0000

Jack, you may be right, this isn’t a leadership issue (totally).

Matt McCarten:
But no single person can win government without a front bench of competent potential cabinet ministers. So here’s the real question: do Labour front benchers look like they are ready to govern? Have they earned the confidence of the public?

Labour’s problem is not its leader, it’s the caucus.

That’s a claim that deserves serious attention. McCarten goes on to examine the performance of some of the Labour front bench.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10826293

By: Jack Ramaka

Jack Ramaka — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:55:32 +0000

This leadership issue is a Red Herring, we will have a Labour/Greens/Maori/NZF? Coalition in the next Government unless Key, English & Brownlee start to pull some rabbits out of the hat.

By: The Al1en

The Al1en — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:40:57 +0000

“Al1en – can you really only manage some petty pathetic politicking?”

See, pete. Told you I was good at it

On a serious note, what are you bringing to the table? Apart from the big bill?

By: The Al1en

The Al1en — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:05:17 +0000

“Get polarising. Soon. Thanks”

Scanners showing signs of intelligent life. Boosting signal.

Gonna have to pinch that quote for a song. Soon. Thanks.

By: Pete George

Pete George — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:58:58 +0000

Tim G and Al1en – can you really only manage some petty pathetic politicking? I don’t speak for UF here, they have nothing to do with this. Labour seems to gave relegated itself from one of two major parties to a sub-major party that requires Greens to succeed.

And they are even ballsing that up, big time at the moment, so we may end up with one major and two minor main parties. I don’t want NZ politics to be dominated by one party, that wouldn’t be good for our democracy.

The Standard has been given a message:
“Oh they are (listening) r0b – loud and clear.

I have to say though there is some misinformation being claimed on this site and that is unfortunate.

Something I learned years ago is that there is always two sides to a story. How about standardistas sit back a little now and let Labour tell their side of the story. I’m sure they will in due course.”

There is ‘some misinformation being claimed’ because there is a vacuum of information.

In ‘due course’ there may be hardly anyone left who can be bothered listening. Especially if people keep fobbing off and trying to divert with irrelevancies.