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	<title>Comments on: Moving forward, and moving forward together</title>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/08/08/moving-forward-and-moving-forward-together/comment-page-1/#comment-290861</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a MOA in the room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a MOA in the room.</p>
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		<title>By: SheepDog</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/08/08/moving-forward-and-moving-forward-together/comment-page-1/#comment-289560</link>
		<dc:creator>SheepDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 03:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, the bleating from Labour Sheep is almost as bad as the nothing from the Gnats.

Nauseating.

As if people need to be led to prosperity. 

As if such a notion would be even possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, the bleating from Labour Sheep is almost as bad as the nothing from the Gnats.</p>
<p>Nauseating.</p>
<p>As if people need to be led to prosperity. </p>
<p>As if such a notion would be even possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/08/08/moving-forward-and-moving-forward-together/comment-page-1/#comment-289448</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought so.  Do consider coming back to NZ when money is no longer your raison d&#039;etre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought so.  Do consider coming back to NZ when money is no longer your raison d&#8217;etre.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim G</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/08/08/moving-forward-and-moving-forward-together/comment-page-1/#comment-289097</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No appetite for a personalised flame war - sorry to disappoint you Dave. The truth is I couldn&#039;t understand a word of your post because it wasn&#039;t written in green crayon.

:roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No appetite for a personalised flame war &#8211; sorry to disappoint you Dave. The truth is I couldn&#8217;t understand a word of your post because it wasn&#8217;t written in green crayon.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/08/08/moving-forward-and-moving-forward-together/comment-page-1/#comment-289079</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 08:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TimG and Anne,  Nice come back :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TimG and Anne,  Nice come back <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/08/08/moving-forward-and-moving-forward-together/comment-page-1/#comment-289069</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim: its : roll : (without the spaces :wink:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim: its : roll : (without the spaces <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Tim G</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/08/08/moving-forward-and-moving-forward-together/comment-page-1/#comment-289060</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave - thanks for your concern t::rolleyes::</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave &#8211; thanks for your concern t::rolleyes::</p>
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		<title>By: The Al1en</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/08/08/moving-forward-and-moving-forward-together/comment-page-1/#comment-289045</link>
		<dc:creator>The Al1en</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 05:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, your putdown attempts are getting worse, bruv. :lol:

The thing is, as much as I&#039;m against tory governments, and certainly ones propped up by stains like Banks, Dunne and soon that loony christian nut job selling the conservative party, I don&#039;t see it changing unless the bods in the big room start actively opposing and quit with the &#039;credible alternative&#039; stategy if enough people get sick of smug john.

As red as my blood is, the current top table is failing. Sort it, or gtfo and let someone else have a go is a fair call. 
It&#039;s quite simple. All the nats say is Labour is the party of tax and spend, just like the numbnuts that come on here always do. Work out what your answer is, and then start telling people. Letting the government define the opposition is giving up without a fight.
It doesn&#039;t matter how far out we are from a vote. Obviously the lesson of Goff&#039;s tenure hasn&#039;t been learnt. A vocal attack and policy alternative should be on every mps daily agenda. 

That&#039;s the problem with politicians - They let politics ruin everything.

So that&#039;s my vote of no confidence in Shearer. 
Guess if you want something done properly ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, your putdown attempts are getting worse, bruv. <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The thing is, as much as I&#8217;m against tory governments, and certainly ones propped up by stains like Banks, Dunne and soon that loony christian nut job selling the conservative party, I don&#8217;t see it changing unless the bods in the big room start actively opposing and quit with the &#8216;credible alternative&#8217; stategy if enough people get sick of smug john.</p>
<p>As red as my blood is, the current top table is failing. Sort it, or gtfo and let someone else have a go is a fair call.<br />
It&#8217;s quite simple. All the nats say is Labour is the party of tax and spend, just like the numbnuts that come on here always do. Work out what your answer is, and then start telling people. Letting the government define the opposition is giving up without a fight.<br />
It doesn&#8217;t matter how far out we are from a vote. Obviously the lesson of Goff&#8217;s tenure hasn&#8217;t been learnt. A vocal attack and policy alternative should be on every mps daily agenda. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem with politicians &#8211; They let politics ruin everything.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s my vote of no confidence in Shearer.<br />
Guess if you want something done properly <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/08/08/moving-forward-and-moving-forward-together/comment-page-1/#comment-289034</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 03:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TimG - Clearly there were some big words in my last post you didn&#039;t understand, as I lack the ability to write in green crayon so you can understand I will say this; the people who pay the most taxes should at the very least have their wishes and opinions considered by the major parties, not dismissed out of hand as Labour and their apologists like yourself are so very keen to do.  As you work overseas because money drives you,  and don&#039;t consider New Zealand a country worth your time and effort, I&#039;m surprised you think your voice has any weight.  Still loving the bickering though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TimG &#8211; Clearly there were some big words in my last post you didn&#8217;t understand, as I lack the ability to write in green crayon so you can understand I will say this; the people who pay the most taxes should at the very least have their wishes and opinions considered by the major parties, not dismissed out of hand as Labour and their apologists like yourself are so very keen to do.  As you work overseas because money drives you,  and don&#8217;t consider New Zealand a country worth your time and effort, I&#8217;m surprised you think your voice has any weight.  Still loving the bickering though.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/08/08/moving-forward-and-moving-forward-together/comment-page-1/#comment-289032</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 03:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Most of us knew it was a major beat-up by a journalist...&quot;  Really?  you know that for a fact?  If what Garner has said is untrue, why is he not being challenged on it vigourously by Labour acolytes who apparently know the truth?

&quot;The aim is to stop it from happening again and in that I think we’ve been successful&quot;  How, exactly have you been successful so quickly?  In the few days since this story broke, are you claiming there has been a crushing of personal opinion in the ranks, despite its veracity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Most of us knew it was a major beat-up by a journalist&#8230;&#8221;  Really?  you know that for a fact?  If what Garner has said is untrue, why is he not being challenged on it vigourously by Labour acolytes who apparently know the truth?</p>
<p>&#8220;The aim is to stop it from happening again and in that I think we’ve been successful&#8221;  How, exactly have you been successful so quickly?  In the few days since this story broke, are you claiming there has been a crushing of personal opinion in the ranks, despite its veracity?</p>
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