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Keep our assets. Sign the petition.

Posted by on April 27th, 2012

Labour is supporting the community campaign Keep Our Assets which aims to force a citizens initiated referendum (CIR) on asset sales. The campaign includes a range of community groups and political parties and is led by Grey Power and the CTU. We need your help in supporting this campaign.

In order to get for a CIR we first need to get the signatures of 10% of the voting population. That amounts to a bit more than 300,000 signatures. It is a lot, but on this issue there is no doubt that the public is on our side.

The Clerk of parliament has approved the referendum question. It is:

Do you support the Government selling up to 49% of Meridian Energy, Mighty River Power, Genesis Power, Solid Energy and Air New Zealand?

Labour has created a website to support the campaign.  This is a great chance to put the government under pressure and to remind New Zealanders that the future of their power companies and airline is at stake.

Most Kiwis want to keep our assets in NZ hands. If you agree please sign the petition. You can download it here and circulate to everyone you know, and you can sign up to the campaign here.

You can make a difference.


32 Responses to “Keep our assets. Sign the petition.”

  1. Spud says:

    Yee haa! :-D ! The fight is on! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D !!!!!!!!

  2. Simon says:

    Didn’t we have a referendum called the election?

    Why have Labour now put such weight in a referendum, last time as I recall the results were completely ignored by the government of the day, who just happened to be Labour. Nothing quite beats some good old fashioned political hypocrisy.

  3. Mel says:

    @ Simon says

    A referendum is not an election.
    Most people in New Zealand do not want our assets sold to private interests.

    Its interesting that you proffer no argument in favour of selling assets, economic or otherwise. Ad hominem attacks are the weapons of the lazy and ill informed.

  4. Simon says:

    @Mel,

    And you fail to provide any reason as to why Labour are so in favour of a referendum now.
    I’m continually aghast at the levels of hypocrisy of all politicians. I’m not sure how you can construe this as an attack or is the truth of reality far too great to bear.

  5. OneTrack says:

    @Mel

    National clearly outlined their intention to sell specific assets ahead of the election and they were elected on that basis. Is it your position that they should now break their election promise?

  6. Tim G says:

    OneTrack – a surprisingly apt moniker.

    Now take off your blinkers, and accept that the majority of new zealanders oppose the MOO.

    Why are you so afraid of a CIR ‘shining a light’ on that fact?

    If you believe a referendum will deliver anything other than opposition to asset sales, then you will put your money where your mouth is, sign the petition and show your support for asset sales in the referendum.

    No? Didn’t think so..

  7. Jack Ramaka says:

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing trying to get a different result.

    Roger Douglas selling of State Assets was a collossal failure and John Key’s ambition to sell the balance of the family silver is just mindless stuff and a cop out for mismanaging the economy.

  8. al1ens says:

    The Al1en will be at the Hamilton leg of the asset sales Hikoi on sunday morning.
    Looking forward to a bit of mingling and plenty of tory slamming.

    Have a goodun.

  9. Jack Ramaka says:

    John Key is basically out of touch with Real New Zealanders, he is a State House boy who has managed to get a few pennies together and is now hunting with the hounds and the Wall St Brotherhood who wish to control the world.

  10. al1ens says:

    State house boy done good – What a crock of shirt.

    He had it no tougher than anyone else did back then, mainly because there was a welfare state and he had the same doors opened to him as everyone else did… Just like 2 tonne Paula and probably all the other uni educated members on the government benches.

    Now if he’d become pm after overcoming the burden and stigma placed on the kids of solo mums (widowed or not) and benefit households these days, then I’d let him own the tag, but as it is, he’s (in my opinion), just another rich prick that forgot how he got what he got, and where he came from.

    When he tells us how he’s gone to bed at night hungry and stayed hungry throughout most of the next day like kids do today, or how his mouldy old unheated and uninsulated slumlord shack caused him to get a third world disease, or how he had no chance of a brighter future because education and choice weren’t even options, let alone aspirations…

    Only then can he can be the state house boy done good.

  11. Inverness says:

    3000 people bothering to attend a protest tells the lie that a ” majority ” of kiwis are against the sales.
    I think Labour would be better sorting out the unfortunate experiment before worrying about CIR

  12. OneTrack says:

    The “created a website” link is broken

  13. Jack Ramaka says:

    A prudent Government would immediately reverse the tax cuts to the wealthy and try and get the economy back into some form of balance.

    The sovereignty of this country is being prostituted to overseas Corporate Interests.

    It ia a no=brainer to hold onto these profitable State Assets which have been built up over generations from hard earned tax payer dollars.

    Robert Muldoon, Roger Douglas and John Key will go down in history as the people that dismantled and fragmented what was once a proud vibrant country by destroying it’s infrastructure and wellbeing. We should be improving our net wealth not cashing out to overseas Investment Bankers who are basically parasites feeding off the weak.

  14. Tim G. says:

    @onetrack – Seems to be working fine to me, you’ll be signing then?

    @inverness – then as a Tory you’ll have no trouble putting your money (oh wait, the public’s money) where your mouth is and giving the electorate the opportunity to speak directly on the issue. You’d be better off that than wasting your breath repeating right wing blogosphere memes over here.

  15. Inverness says:

    Tim G
    The public had their chance at the election to express their opinion.
    You can’t go through life relitigating decisions because they don’t go your way.
    Children learn this at an early age

  16. Jack Ramaka says:

    Inverness you are parroting John Key’s immature mantra.

    If you read the articles in the weekend alot of people did not vote because they do not trust politicans etc.

    The polls indicate most people are against asset sales which have no economic logic.

  17. Inverness says:

    Jack Ramaka

    The simple economic logic is we have to urgently get our debt down before we end up like Greece.
    Of course we wouldn’t be having this discussion if the last Labour Government hadn’t made long term spending decisions that we couldn’t afford.

    National won the election , and the right to implement their policies.
    Get over it .

  18. Jack Ramaka says:

    The way John Key and Bill English are going we are going to end up like Greece.

    This is the same BS that Roger Douglas spun us in the 1980′s when we sold key infrastructure for chickenfeed to the likes of Michael Fay etc.

    We have a strong currency which indicates the rest of the world have alot of faith in NZ, keep the assets.

    Perhaps Key should reverse the tax cuts for his mates.

  19. Sofie Bribiesca says:

    @ Inverness

    Children learn this at an early age

    They are also taught to play nicely with others and we still end up with the bullies wanting all the toys for themselves. Unfortunately the not so bright follow blindly believing that the sandpit has room for them. It’s obvious where you fit in.

  20. al1ens says:

    “The simple economic logic is we have to urgently get our debt down before we end up like Greece”

    We certainly weren’t in that position in 2008, even in recession. Shows what a pig’s ear the merchant banker has made of his chance.

    “Of course we wouldn’t be having this discussion if the last Labour Government hadn’t made long term spending decisions that we couldn’t afford”

    Like working for families and interest free loans, which English knows if he touches is political suicide, even if communism by stealth is so opposition. :Lol:

    “National won the election , and the right to implement their policies.
    Get over it .”

    In government only by the support of a 1% tea cup party (not for long though, aye ;) ), and a 0% party that plays it’s political cards by sticking the 3 of clubs on his forehead and wandering around saying “if you guess my card, I’m your new minister of ultimate fail”.

    The people of NZ demand fair and transparent governance.
    Shonky deals and ill thought out, short sighted sell-off policy does no-one any favours in the end.

  21. Tim G says:

    Inverness, what part of:

    a) the 2011 was not (despite Labour’s best efforts) decided on asset sales (but instead a hollow, presidential-style popularity contest between Key and Goff); and

    b) the outcome of all polling on asset sales (but if you are sitting on some secret internal polling on asset sales, please show us)

    do you not get? The decision on asset sales should be given to the public to make – until it is there is nothing to relitigate.

    No matter how you and your mates try to spin this, it hasn’t been directly put to the public to decide – a CIR would be the most direct, most official way to do that.

    Relitigating the 2011 election would require a general election now, on all of the issues. Of course, if your dear leader wanted to call a snap election now, I would also welcome that.

    As al1ens notes, we might find the 3 of clubs and joker don’t get dealt next time

  22. Sofie Bribiesca says:

    I can not find the “on line” petition, just the pdf for printing a form . Where is the “on line” petition? Or is the ” get involved” box the actual petition?

  23. Inverness says:

    Tim G

    Your right.
    The asset sales haven’t been put “directly to the public”.
    Telling the public 10 months before the election what they are planning to do , campaigning on it and having Labour pop their veins over it during the election wasn’t noticed by the Public,
    However I think you’ll find most thinking people will have noticed , and voted accordingly

  24. Phil Twyford says:

    Thanks for pointing that out Sophie. I have changed it to clarify.

  25. Tracey says:

    “You can’t go through life relitigating decisions because they don’t go your way.
    Children learn this at an early age”

    They also learn not to lie or behave badly. I presume you are calling for the PM to stand Mr Banks down?

  26. Lou Peters says:

    There is a mandate, it was the election. National specifically campaigned on it and were asked to be judged on it. Labour made a huge song and dance about their oposition to it and the alternatives they offered. The result was Labour was rejected. How much more of a mandate do you need? Put another way, will Labour allow citizens referenda on policies they campaign on (assuming they win) to ‘test’ their mandate? They haven’t in the past, why would they now?

  27. Lou Peters says:

    @Tracey – nice deflection from the argument, answer the points.

  28. Tim G. says:

    No Mr Peters – it’s not a case of deflection, this discussion is just going around in circles because:

    a) Labour thinks that a massive majority of public opposition to asset sales undermines National’s claim that the public supports them in it;

    b) You don’t (for entirely understandable and self-serving reasons) agree.

    Get over it.

  29. Jeremy says:

    Jack Ramaka says:

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing trying to get a different result.

    Roger Douglas selling of State Assets was a collossal failure and John Key’s ambition to sell the balance of the family silver is just mindless stuff and a cop out for mismanaging the economy.

    What rubbish, NZ had 1% of economic growth per year the 30 years before ’84. As a country we were bordering on insolvency. After the reforms (of which privatisation was a large part) we had 4% – 5% growth per annum throughout the early 90s. The SOE were are a inefficient disgrace and the newly privatised former SOE’s had massive increases in efficiency and productivity – which benefitted us all.

    State ownership is inefficient, unproductive and immoral.

  30. Todd Valster says:

    Hi,
    Is the petition available without the sample so we can get 10 to a page?

  31. Craig says:

    The election was a carefully managed popularity contest. National (abetted by a compliant media)spent their first term giving the smiling Key the best possible profile, too many of the electorate were so blinded by that strategy that they didn’t believe that this Mr Nice Guy would be so nasty as to sell anything we really really wanted to keep.

    People voted for Key because they liked and respected him. They should have asked themselves whether he liked and respected them or not. Certainly asset sales well against public opinion and attacks on workers conditions may well indicate that he does not.

    So to say that the election was the peoples chance to vote against asset sales is nothing but a complete crock, something put about by National’s huge public relations machine.

    Jeremy, don’t you think it’s a little over the top calling public ownership of assets “immoral.” What is immoral is the way large corporates have stuffed up the world economic condition. I haven’t seen any evidence that public owned assets were involved in that little bit of immorality.

  32. al1ens says:

    This thread, like key’s retro toryisms, risen from the past.