<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Section 9 debacle: The real story</title>
	<atom:link href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/</link>
	<description>A blog written by Labour MPs</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:29:10 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: al1ens</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/comment-page-1/#comment-251086</link>
		<dc:creator>al1ens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=33864#comment-251086</guid>
		<description>&quot;Export the resources and use that revenue to reduce taxes and we would boom.&quot;

Yeah, &#039;cos we&#039;ve beeen booming since the first two nat budgets slashed the top rate of income tax and gave &#039;rich pricks&#039; $1000pw they didn&#039;t deserve.

Like the crafar farms and asset sales, exporting minerals from conservation land would only benefit foreign interests and those with too much already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Export the resources and use that revenue to reduce taxes and we would boom.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, &#8216;cos we&#8217;ve beeen booming since the first two nat budgets slashed the top rate of income tax and gave &#8216;rich pricks&#8217; $1000pw they didn&#8217;t deserve.</p>
<p>Like the crafar farms and asset sales, exporting minerals from conservation land would only benefit foreign interests and those with too much already.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tony Wallace</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/comment-page-1/#comment-251013</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 07:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=33864#comment-251013</guid>
		<description>The was a banner at the consultation hui: &quot;Can&#039;t sell what you don&#039;t own&quot;.  These assets, built by our parents and grandparents belong to generations yet to be born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The was a banner at the consultation hui: &#8220;Can&#8217;t sell what you don&#8217;t own&#8221;.  These assets, built by our parents and grandparents belong to generations yet to be born.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/comment-page-1/#comment-245707</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=33864#comment-245707</guid>
		<description>@Paul I like your way of thinking!

It&#039;s good to see the Maori party taking a stand against this, whatever the reason for them doing it it works for us. Let&#039;s just hope the Maori party have actions to back up their threats.

But I can see why National is trying to raise revenue and I kind of wish they went through with mining national parks instead. It&#039;s like New Zealanders want the government to improve the economy but at no cost to the public or the environment. We need industry and we need growth, I say we mine national parks under state ownership and seek out oil under state ownership too. Export the resources and use that revenue to reduce taxes and we would boom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul I like your way of thinking!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to see the Maori party taking a stand against this, whatever the reason for them doing it it works for us. Let&#8217;s just hope the Maori party have actions to back up their threats.</p>
<p>But I can see why National is trying to raise revenue and I kind of wish they went through with mining national parks instead. It&#8217;s like New Zealanders want the government to improve the economy but at no cost to the public or the environment. We need industry and we need growth, I say we mine national parks under state ownership and seek out oil under state ownership too. Export the resources and use that revenue to reduce taxes and we would boom.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: MrV</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/comment-page-1/#comment-245669</link>
		<dc:creator>MrV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 05:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=33864#comment-245669</guid>
		<description>@ghostwhowalksnz
I&#039;m sure it&#039;s possible to have an airspace grievance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ghostwhowalksnz<br />
I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s possible to have an airspace grievance?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/comment-page-1/#comment-245666</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 03:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=33864#comment-245666</guid>
		<description>The govenment stressed we kept a majority ownership and this is only a sale of a minority shareholding. 

But all along it intended to ensure that terms that suited the minority shareholder would be legislated for. 

Wonder why it made none of this known before the election. 

Buy back all shares at issue price, no matter the price they are when the government takes them back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The govenment stressed we kept a majority ownership and this is only a sale of a minority shareholding. </p>
<p>But all along it intended to ensure that terms that suited the minority shareholder would be legislated for. </p>
<p>Wonder why it made none of this known before the election. </p>
<p>Buy back all shares at issue price, no matter the price they are when the government takes them back.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/comment-page-1/#comment-245647</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 02:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=33864#comment-245647</guid>
		<description>Institutional investors means banks, kiwisaver funds and private super funds or investments. These are the companies that are responsible for mum and dad investors&#039; money so they can have a safe and diversified portfolio.

As for applying the principles of the treaty to the minority shareholders - that is not even legal. You cannot apply the treaty to private citizens - they are not a party to it. It applies only to Iwi and the Crown. 

Of course the intention is for them to run like private companies. They are the most profitable - which is actually best for the government and taxpayers alike!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Institutional investors means banks, kiwisaver funds and private super funds or investments. These are the companies that are responsible for mum and dad investors&#8217; money so they can have a safe and diversified portfolio.</p>
<p>As for applying the principles of the treaty to the minority shareholders &#8211; that is not even legal. You cannot apply the treaty to private citizens &#8211; they are not a party to it. It applies only to Iwi and the Crown. </p>
<p>Of course the intention is for them to run like private companies. They are the most profitable &#8211; which is actually best for the government and taxpayers alike!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ghostwhowalksnz</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/comment-page-1/#comment-245642</link>
		<dc:creator>ghostwhowalksnz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 02:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=33864#comment-245642</guid>
		<description>Key is so concerned about &#039;institutional investors&#039; in private but in public he talks about &#039;mum and dad investors&#039;.

They  both cant be the ones he pitching the shares too.
 I wonder which ones hes listening  the most to ?

Fortran, which land did Air NZ own  when it was sold that could be part of a treaty claim?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key is so concerned about &#8216;institutional investors&#8217; in private but in public he talks about &#8216;mum and dad investors&#8217;.</p>
<p>They  both cant be the ones he pitching the shares too.<br />
 I wonder which ones hes listening  the most to ?</p>
<p>Fortran, which land did Air NZ own  when it was sold that could be part of a treaty claim?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fortran</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/comment-page-1/#comment-245640</link>
		<dc:creator>Fortran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 02:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=33864#comment-245640</guid>
		<description>Rich

Nobody could afford to remove the voting rights of the private (read IWI as well) shareholders.
The legal profession would keep this going for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich</p>
<p>Nobody could afford to remove the voting rights of the private (read IWI as well) shareholders.<br />
The legal profession would keep this going for years.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fortran</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/comment-page-1/#comment-245639</link>
		<dc:creator>Fortran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=33864#comment-245639</guid>
		<description>Why was this clause not put into the Air NZ deal ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was this clause not put into the Air NZ deal ?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/02/02/section-9-debacle-the-real-story/comment-page-1/#comment-245629</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 00:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=33864#comment-245629</guid>
		<description>Can Labour not just threaten to re-nationalise any of these assets without compensation?  Who&#039;d risk buying them then? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can Labour not just threaten to re-nationalise any of these assets without compensation?  Who&#8217;d risk buying them then? <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
