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#Keyhole for fact check

Posted by on October 31st, 2011

Tonight’s debate has a parallel website. It is designed for you to fact check because there have been problems with the leader of he national parties veracity.

It is at keyholes.co.nz (thanks Draco).


18 Responses to “#Keyhole for fact check”

  1. Draco T Bastard says:

    http://keyholes.co.nz/

    As you seem to have forgotten it.

  2. ed says:

    Jonkey wants to throw the kids into the working wilderness to fend for themselves on lower wages.

    Phil wants to support them into aprentiships up until they are ready to compete with the adults.

    Phil Goff: The peoples man!

    Jonkey: The monkey!

  3. ed says:

    Jonkey believes that every kid in new zealand can work hard and become the prime minster of new zealand. Wow. Pity there can only be one prime minster at any one time. That sounds like a contest for survival to me.

  4. Someone Else says:

    I received a reminder from the National Party to vote on the viewer poll during the One Leader’s Debate. The thing is, who is more likely to be able to afford the 75 cents to send a text message to TVNZ? Hardly scientific or fair, huh?

    I remember when Rodney Hide was on Dancing with the Stars. A mate’s phone bill was huge from voting multiple times!

  5. Richard the First says:

    Rate the players??

    JK 9
    PG 3

    National Standards report for PG….Will have to try harder to do better.

  6. Jester says:

    Chin up boys and girls, all is not lost.
    Lol

  7. ed says:

    If the minimum wage is raised what is going to happen? Everyone who has now got an extra $64 per week is going to go on a spending spree. Every week an extra $?million dollars being spent in our local shops.

    If an extra $?million is spent in our local shops whats going to happen? Thats right, profits are going to go up because people are buying more.

    The money needed to pay for the extra pay will come from the extra pay. This is the cycle of money flowing through an economy.

    The one thing that will not change is the bottom line of the business owners. They will break even on the deal because as their business becomes bussier their staff costs will rise to match. It is for this reason that National will not support the minimum wage going up. No extra profits for their core voters.

    If turnover goes up then business can’t lay off staff, as monkey assets, because then they would end up losing customers by being short staffed. Any business that doesn’t have customer satisfaction at its core doesn’t stay in business very long.

    So in other words monkey is full of it.

  8. Ianmac says:

    Well done Phil. Well informed. He won my support. (Perhaps Phil could be more concise and stop speaking before Espiner has an excuse to cut him off.)

  9. Someone Else says:

    Anyone else noticed that the Penguin hasn’t posted anything on the debate yet?

  10. ed says:

    Monkey in the beehive eating all the honey! Hungry humans on the streets asking for help! Monkey calls the hungry humans a bunch of useless slackers behind closed doors! Monkey only cares about monkey and honey! Bad monkey!

    If I speak in monkey language maybe monkey will understand?

  11. Spam says:

    So in other words monkey is full of it.

    You fail at economics. Oh – unless you think stagflation is a good idea.

  12. John W says:

    John Key is consistent in promoting the interests of transnational money.

    Listening carefully and I find that national standards are gong to lift education.
    That’s great.

    No need to do much else.

    And now all parents will know where their kids are at.

    And they didn’t know before.

    Another smokescreen

  13. Pete says:

    Ed would benefit from a course in Econ101.

    If what you’re saying is true, then hand everyone $1m per week. Imagine the spend then!

    What could possibly go wrong…

  14. Spud says:

    Goff kicked butt! :-D :-D :-D !

  15. old sammy says:

    For those who missed it, here is the Official Debate Summary:

    Phil Goff – some policies.

    John Key – “actually” x 200.

  16. Curious says:

    Phil Goff did very well. I have not been a huge fan of Goff’s but his ability to think on his feet and debate well really told this evening.

    There were times when Key looked lost, flippant and somewhat feckless. I have seen both men orate in the house and had my suspicions of Key’s inability to front up to a one on one debate.

    The political commentators were idiots. The text poll a farce.

    The only thing that Key said that I agreed with was what he had to say on the DPB.

    I believe the DPB is a major factor in the continuation of child poverty in New Zealand. I don’t think Labour have acknowledged this and I think that this will cost them votes.

  17. Tracey says:

    If we look at the debate from the point of view of the current ratings of the debaters I have to disagree with RT1, based on their starting points Key held his own (if people believe his “dynamic environments”, giving him a 5/10 and Goff punched above his polling weight. I give him 6.5

    How on earth can a government that took away the university training assistance grant from women on the DBH now be saying it wants to support people back to work?

    As for the idea that benefits are easy to get, Mr Key, like other PM’s before him keep repeating the mistruth that it is rife with bludgers. The statistics and processes just don’t support that. If it were true why on earth would beneficiary advocates constantly talk about the need for better service and treatment from WINZ?

  18. James says:

    .Life ban. Trevor

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