Tolley on standards again – this is New Zealand’s Minister of Education. Bit of a question whether to post because of international credibility issues.
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thank god we don’t have mallard in government who was responsible for closing a number of schools. Look at the mess our education is in with NCEA which has really dumbed down our education system.
Might I add I went right thou NCEA and its crap! I hope you ministers know that schools have found ways to bend the system to there advantage and make schools look better! Plus it made them (schools/teachers) go nutty about the excellence grade. I can recall a few experiences…
The credits system is rubbish to.
In agriculture if you did a two hour course (you did learn,test in the two hours) you got 10 credits while studying for a week for so you could do a unit stand only got you 3 and similar case applied to exams. You study/learn for a whole month so you could be tested for a 3 or 4 credit exam.
Its pure BS.
I went through it, level 1 to level 3 and it was utter rubbish. NCEA needs to be reformed or scraped.
P.S There a whole lot more issues the need to be brought up as well.
Tolley also wants us to believe that 2 + 2 = 5. All she’s missing now is a giant telescreen – it’ll serve the dual purpose of handling bigger class sizes and prolefeeding them.
Marvellous how people who no little about what is happening in education continue to show how little they know, without realising it – Richard and Red Under the Bed appear to be examples of this.
Do you not know that the Ministry of Ed, under Tolley’s direction is currently re levelling all the existing Junior Readers so that they fit with the Standard levels.
Great for them being valid. great for existing assessment tools that have proven validity being releveled to fit an unknown invalid standard……
Parents are being sold a pup by a Minister who says she knows all about Education either because she had a couple of family members who were teachers or she heard about it at a BBQ at Christmas…
On that basis i could be considered an expert on many subjects!!!
“Mrs Tolley said the establishment of the advisory group was in recognition of the role the education sector had to play in the implementation of national standards during the next three years.
The group would consist of representatives of organisations such as the NZ Educational Institute union, the School Trustees Association and the Principals’ Federation.
Places would be reserved for four practitioners who do not represent any groups.
Mrs Tolley hoped the group could meet within the next six weeks.
NZEI president Frances Nelson said the sector had been calling for engagement in discussions with the ministry for the past two years.
While she welcomed the establishment of the group, she was sceptical about its objectives.
“It is absolutely imperative that the discussions start with what is wrong with the standards and whether or not they can be fixed.
“And until we get a clear sense as to whether or not they can be fixed and/or made workable, the minister should stop schools from implementing them and reporting on them.” “
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Chortle
Were her pants on fire or did the pixies in her head lie to her again? 
I was listening on the radio…you sounded like you were gulping for air…*l*
thank god we don’t have mallard in government who was responsible for closing a number of schools. Look at the mess our education is in with NCEA which has really dumbed down our education system.
Reminder Richard – the decision to bring in NCEA was taken in either 1998 or 1999 by Nick Smith
Backward looking NACTs must be panicking now that they see the calibre of their senior Ministers revealed on Youtube.
Might I add I went right thou NCEA and its crap! I hope you ministers know that schools have found ways to bend the system to there advantage and make schools look better! Plus it made them (schools/teachers) go nutty about the excellence grade. I can recall a few experiences…
The credits system is rubbish to.
In agriculture if you did a two hour course (you did learn,test in the two hours) you got 10 credits while studying for a week for so you could do a unit stand only got you 3 and similar case applied to exams. You study/learn for a whole month so you could be tested for a 3 or 4 credit exam.
Its pure BS.
I went through it, level 1 to level 3 and it was utter rubbish. NCEA needs to be reformed or scraped.
P.S There a whole lot more issues the need to be brought up as well.
Tolley also wants us to believe that 2 + 2 = 5. All she’s missing now is a giant telescreen – it’ll serve the dual purpose of handling bigger class sizes and prolefeeding them.
Marvellous how people who no little about what is happening in education continue to show how little they know, without realising it – Richard and Red Under the Bed appear to be examples of this.
Do you not know that the Ministry of Ed, under Tolley’s direction is currently re levelling all the existing Junior Readers so that they fit with the Standard levels.
Great for them being valid. great for existing assessment tools that have proven validity being releveled to fit an unknown invalid standard……
Parents are being sold a pup by a Minister who says she knows all about Education either because she had a couple of family members who were teachers or she heard about it at a BBQ at Christmas…
On that basis i could be considered an expert on many subjects!!!
Wonder what wine she was quaffing then………
OOPs typo… no should be know….. Just made the error to get some of those pseudo nats who write in something to get excited about……
A u-turn while the earthquake is in the news??
“Mrs Tolley said the establishment of the advisory group was in recognition of the role the education sector had to play in the implementation of national standards during the next three years.
The group would consist of representatives of organisations such as the NZ Educational Institute union, the School Trustees Association and the Principals’ Federation.
Places would be reserved for four practitioners who do not represent any groups.
Mrs Tolley hoped the group could meet within the next six weeks.
NZEI president Frances Nelson said the sector had been calling for engagement in discussions with the ministry for the past two years.
While she welcomed the establishment of the group, she was sceptical about its objectives.
“It is absolutely imperative that the discussions start with what is wrong with the standards and whether or not they can be fixed.
“And until we get a clear sense as to whether or not they can be fixed and/or made workable, the minister should stop schools from implementing them and reporting on them.” “