Yesterday Anne Tolley admitted she had been advised that her ECE changes would lead to fee increases between $40 and $80 per child per week.
She also seemed to indicate that centres could not charge within the 20 hour policy if they decided not to fire qualified staff if they had over 80% qualified. So it will be goodbye to some qualified staff.
This really illustrates tory moral bankruptcy. Why can’t affordable care of our kids be considered ‘too big to fail’.
I wonder why National and Act don’t consider money put into education as an investment. I think it pays [[http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/business/economy/28leonhardt.html?_r=2&src=me&ref=business|better]] than the 8% that the Govt was so eager to return to the investors of the failed South Canterbury Finance .
I love the Trev and Tolley show
Just let the children wander the streets, they will get a different kind of education …
You say a lot in a few words Spud!
Q7 ‘Hon TREVOR MALLARD to the Minister of Education: Does she stand by all of her statements in answer to oral question No. 8 yesterday?’
*lol* I listened to that yesterday…and I’m gonna listen to that one today…*l*
Nice to see you Truewheel
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What is all the fuss about? Everyone can afford to pay the extra from the massive tax cuts we are all about to receive…. sorry, day dreaming I was the CEO of Telecom; back to figuring out how I can afford to feed my kids once the GST increases.
@Spud
lol, it would be a better education too. it will teach them how life works
National ECE price hike, not good.
Mind you national shooting themselves in the foot.
Some of them low wage workers won’t be able to afford it and will have to quit there low wage jobs cause they have to look after there kids and nationals rich mates are going have to start paying better wages if they they there workers back. Maybe not likely but hopefully..
if you have a child, make sure you can afford to raise it. this communist attitude of labour that the tax payer should pay to raise and care for everyones children is what is bankrupting this country
I think the true National Party view is coming through at last – thanks for your honesty Richard – good to see the research notes being used.
Seems like Richard would prefer children live in poverty instead of using the country’s resources to give them the best future that they can possibly have.
Richard, have you already forgotten that Prime Minister Key grew up in a State House, supported under the wing of Govt social welfare?
Hey guys, the post above is not me!!!!!
LOL
Which Richard are you? Richard the first? Whom I raced last year? Or other Richard? Anyone care to get a profile picture? – 
Richard the First Spud. I always use capital letters where required. I have given up trying to beat you to the first post Spud.
Howdy Rich
Please note I have now changed my user name to avoid ever increasing confusion.
Yeah ECE centers are hurting, even private are feeling the pinch.
One ECE manager claimed she had a problem with fulling vacancies – she told me it was probably due to less funding. Surprisingly enough she mentioned how the TIA cuts have affected the business also – as many parents of the attending preschoolers were going back into training.
Like many parents I have also noticed the price difference already.
I believe the cuts could affect parents decisions to go back into full-time work, obtain a good education and tragically our children’s future.
I believe all children deserve a good education regardless of what background they are from and the current use of the current government money is a absolute disgrace.
There are so many positives that stem from a good education and absolutely no negatives. If we want a good investment for the future of NZ-ECE would be the starting line!!!
Great Move Richard the First
@Marie – agreed
Yes you have said it all really Marie.
@Richard Funding has been given for years especially to Kindys so if you had children that went through the kindy system then you would have not paid for it all yourself and you would have had 100% quailified teachers.
http://www.nzkindergarten.org.nz/about/history.html
I know this is Kindergarten and not full time daycare but Kindergartens who have had trained staff for a very very long time and now getting their funding cut its a bit harsh to say if you can’t afford your own children don’t have them.
Does this extend to school too? should if you have a child you have to be able to send them to private school and not expect the govt to fund any kind of school? If you have your own children support them yourself?
Are you one of the people who like all this money being spent on National standards too? That seems quite contradicting to me. On one hand you would be saying that people should support their own kids and not rely on the tax payer and on the other hand you agree with money being spent on other people children. I find it all up in the air and seems to have no logic.
What happens if you could afford to have children then something happens and you loose your job or something?
@Richard 1. Thank you for finding a way to tell you both apart.
Glad it’s been cleared up Richard 1. Was beginning to think you had a split personality
Its amazing that most people, except those like Richard and Tolley, know that the most effective means of getting educational improvement across the board, is to get as many as possible involved in Early Childhood Education. Pity something as simple as that can’t be understood by the “Blue Rinse Brigade”.
Actually I keep thinging of the French aristocracy who told the starving in France to “eat cake”….. The result of that myoptic view was they all lost thier heads….. The vision of Tolley and her ilk in a similar state, does bring a smile to my face…
Its nothing to do with spouting nonsensical comments like you have been Richard. Tell that to the huge numbers of parents especially in Northland, who can’t afford even another dollar to get their children into Early Childhood, let alone a fees increase as outlined….
There again most of those currently in power only visit up here to sit on their decks overlooking the beaches, and spend their time discussing their “latte” inspired version of how to improve their bank balances, before driving their 4wd gazz gusslers back to their safe sheletered worlds in the big city…..
Given that Tolley hasn’t ever been a teacher herself, it’s not surprising that she doesn’t truly realise how to improve achievement in education. Being on school boards is completely different to being in a classroom, I’m flabbergasted that she hasn’t twigged this yet
It’s a damn good thing that she’s never been a teacher, scary