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What do the Act grassroots think of Hide ?

Posted by Trevor Mallard on August 25th, 2010

Well actually not the grassroots – the guy who comes into Parliament if Roy and Douglas toss in the towel.

Act member Peter Tashkoff has announced he will contest party leader Rodney Hide for the right to stand for Act in the seat of Epsom.

Newstalk ZB reported that Mr Tashkoff – number seven on Act’s party list – had been scathing of Mr Hide’s performance as leader and the handling of the Heather Roy affair.

It quoted Mr Tashkoff as saying Mr Hide was a failure as a leader, a liability to the party and had to go.

Mr Tashkoff – a supporter of Mrs Roy -said pretending Act was not divided would not fix anything.

Thanks Standard

Update  And now more from the Herald.


37 Responses to “What do the Act grassroots think of Hide ?”

  1. Monty says:

    as one of the very few people on this blog who have voted ACT most elections since 1996 maybe I can coment.

    I also have met both Rodney and Heather and like them both. (much more than any Labour MP I have and have not met)

    I am disapointed and saddened. Act need to pull themselves together and get some discipline. They need to focus on their key messages and continue to offer something different from National for those who are economically liberal.

  2. Tigger says:

    Minty – so can they do that with Rodney in charge?

  3. Anthony Blomfield says:

    Not a bad debate to have. I could consider myself an Act supporter. And yes agree with the first comment, both make excellent contributions to Act. I think Rodney must have a lot of hard work to do and I still support him as leader.

    The only upset I have had is the major ,
    undemocratic social super city setup. Which some have told Act, does not align with policies of Act.

    Cheers

  4. Rodney Hide has turned out to publicly be the manipulative troll I always thought he was…

    I think the grassroots are unhappy that their party has gone from irrelevance to dysfunctional irrelevance…

  5. reid says:

    “Rodney Hide has turned out to publicly be the manipulative troll I always thought he was”

    Jeremy it’s a common phenomena that people who expect to see something activate the subconscious which tells them often that it’s there and sometimes it isn’t, actually. You see it all the time.

    I don’t think Rodney’s the best leader a political party ever had, but he’s not the worst, and he has his moments.

    This, clearly, isn’t one of the better ones. However, Roy did to him what Carter did to Goff. Different tactics but same strategic objective.

    Hide had about as much choice as Goff.

  6. And sometimes people are exactly what you think they are… He is nothing but a disaster, just as Douglas always thought he would be… You used to be able to respect the ACT party, they stood up and said what they thought – many times I agreed, now they are pandering, schizophrenic, rorters…

  7. Loota says:

    I think the grassroots are unhappy that their party has gone from irrelevance to dysfunctional irrelevance…

    WHAM!!!

  8. Viking says:

    Got some concrete and sound evidence of that Jeremy?

  9. Dylan says:

    power struggles within a minor party with 3% of the vote, what a laugh.

  10. reid says:

    “many times I agreed, now they are pandering, schizophrenic, rorters…”

    So how do you reconcile that dichotomy?

  11. mark m says:

    power struggles within a minor party?
    Labour must have sympathy with ACT

  12. Spud says:

    How that Hilary someone mmmmmm? :-D
    “(much more than any Labour MP I have and have not met)” Maybe if you met him / her then you could like that MP too
    :-D

    @Loota – Rodney said wake me up before you go go :P

    @Dylan – agreed – Act can be hours of fun :-D

  13. Dylan says:

    Yep… ACT are just a joke gone wrong

  14. “Got some concrete and sound evidence of that Jeremy?”

    Tashkoff…

    “So how do you reconcile that dichotomy?”

    There are pandering to all sorts of opposing groups, the lock em’ up and throw away the keyers, anti-climate change groups, prosecute finance companies, going along with National policies they oppose, the perk buster caught with with his nose in trough after less than a year of access, Roger Douglas and a Social Creditor in Parliament together…

    As I said at least you could respect them before, almost 20 years of principle, thrown away to feed Rodney’s ego and have a few Ministerial perks…

  15. reid says:

    Jeremy next Sunday arvo you should just drive around some of whichever town you live in’s richest suburbs and just have a look at some of their nice peaceful tasteful healthy benevolent lovable properties and think to yourself something wonderful, like you could be there too.

  16. peter says:

    There’s an excellent way to deal with Grassroots, Roundup and lots of it !

  17. Loota says:

    nice peaceful tasteful healthy benevolent lovable properties and think to yourself something wonderful, like you could be there too.

    Sounds like the American Dream – fool people that they will reach that while creating conditions for increasing poverty and hardship i.e. feed tham a dream, don’t actually feed them.

    And thanks for confirming that what we are talking about is class war.

  18. Dylan says:

    reid at 10:41 that was a troll if I ever saw one

  19. Spud says:

    @peter Roundup is extremely bad for humans and is banned in some countries. Flurodated water is also banned in some places. NZ is a dump! We made agent orange, we poisioned people with 245T and we continue to make others ill. Farmers had better watch out. We are one of the most poisonous countries to live in. Seriously, dude, if you’re using the stuff you may want to switch to pine oil or something :-(
    Like 245T people in this country are slow to protect their citizens :evil:

    I feel sorry for Heather :-( I do hope this is the end of ACT. :-)

  20. “Jeremy next Sunday arvo you should just drive around some of whichever town you live in’s richest suburbs and just have a look at some of their nice peaceful tasteful healthy benevolent lovable properties and think to yourself something wonderful, like you could be there too.”

    Ha ha, thanks Reid, my parent’s already do and I’m well on my way…

    Don’t really see how that’s relevant in anyway to this discussion… I think your new here but I’m one of the few posters who consistently talks about how incredibly dependent we are on the investor class who keep capital in NZ and create wealth and jobs through that investment, I’m working hard to become one of them – so please take your pathetic attempts to talk down to people elsewhere…

  21. peter says:

    Spud, you are not wrong, my wife’s family spent alot of time near the Dow chemical plant in New Plymouth..There is a lot of anecdotal evidence of health concerns caused by that plant.

  22. Spud says:

    And scientific evidence of the damage that these chemical cause. I’m not wrong, if you guys are fine then you are lucky, but others have been affected.

  23. Spud says:

    I think this country is backward in looking after the health of its citizens :-(

  24. Richard says:

    Disagree Spud. We have one of the best public health systems in the world. Sure there are problems from time to time, and we seem to spend too much money on managers and clerks, but the delivery of health services to the population remains pretty damned good.

  25. Spud says:

    I wasn’t talking about the health system, I was in A and E recently and I thought the people who treated me were champs :-D Especially the ones who dealt with that guy who was vomiting for hours on end :-D

    There are too many poisons in our country Richard :-(

  26. peter says:

    It’s quite true alas, that we are only as clean as we are because there are so few of us here.. I dread to think of the state of NZ if we had say 20 million people here.

    We do generate more waste per person than most other OECD countries…

  27. Chris73 says:

    Personally speaking the way Hide and Roy have acted is the way Goff and Carter should have acted

  28. sammy says:

    Back on topic …

    Today, peace broke out in the ACT party. Everybody lived happily ever after.

    Just kidding. The civil war goes on …

    http://petertashkoff.blogspot.com/2010/08/press-release-hide-handed-whupping-by.html

  29. Spud says:

    @Chris 73 8O you’re back! :o
    I don’t get what you mean :? Chuck Carter out and then let him back in? 8O ????????

  30. Peter says:

    Rodney “perkbuster” Hide and Heather “Sergeant” Roy are too similar to get along. Too full of their own squishy ideas.

    I would not trust either of them in Education. In fact I don’t trust ACT in Education. For Heather Roy to pretend this scholarship scheme is parent choice – I fall on the floor laughing! This is a school choice and attempted elitism policy, nothing to do with the choice for all parents.

    Of course infinite choice, as envisaged, is infeasible. Nothing that has been said by Roger Douglas, Deborah Coddington, Heather Roy .. will make it different. ACT is the party of infeasibility. A bit like a religion and just look at the Roman Catholic Church these days. Ha Ha !!

  31. John W says:

    Reid
    So it takes a drive to see inequity. Try walking and we may all be better off.
    Envy and greed, when there is no need is easily justifies by some but the consequences can be extremely antisocial and even criminal.

    Act is not a joke.
    It is an indication of social sickness.
    One that will severely damage our health system if we don’t get on top of it.
    It is nice to here Winstons voice on the news this week. He stand for a bigger group than Act.

    We need to clean up our Act

  32. Spud says:

    Winnie needs to Win :-D

  33. DeepRed says:

    @John W & Spud: if only to split the Archie Bunker/Red Forman vote. Other than that, I’d still be suspicious of him.

    @reid: you see, “nice peaceful tasteful healthy benevolent lovable properties and think to yourself something wonderful, like you could be there too”. I see Affluenza.

  34. DeepRed says:

    PS. Ack, no preview button. The last link should be Affluenza.

  35. John W says:

    DeeoRed
    Assuming the malady leaves enough free will and reason to allow comprehension of the problem disease.

    The euphoria of toxins dilates the ego, diminishes ethics and becomes adictive.

    Winnie is all of that but at least has performed some tasks that have resulted in social gains. That puts him so far ahead of Act that comparision is tenuous.

  36. theresaj says:

    Act has had far too much influence when you consider just how few votes they rec’d at the last election. Rodney thru his tax payer funded overseas jaunt has assured they will receive even fewer votes next time. Noone destroyed Rodney’s carefully , crafted image. He did a thoroughly good job of destroying it himself..He threw away his own integrity. No coming back from that. He is history.

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