Change the law so that anyone working for an employer in a small business can be fired in the first three months without notice and without reason. Justify the change on the basis that employers will be more likely to employ people.
Wait a year. Ask officials whether it worked. Receive a paper saying it seems not to have increased employment opportunities.
Claim the exact opposite and extend the fire-at-will provisions to all employers, with the result that for most employers nothing will change but for rat-bag employers things will get abusive.
This is excellent legislation and will lead to an increase in the work force and over time significantly increased productivity.
It is an incentive for people to join the work force – and I an bewildered as to why Labour, the Greens and the Unions cannot see that.
So what are Labour going to do about it Pete? I’m tired of hearing Labour ‘oppose’ this and ‘oppose’ that, but I am hearing nothing about them repealing this anti-worker piece of crap.
In fairness that is the main power an opposition has… to oppose.
Those poor people losing their rights and not even being given a reason for being fired
pd-em said:
Yes I agree, driving down wages will give the bean counters the appearance of “increasing productivity”.
Until all the talent we need to build a high value economy decides to frak off on a 3 1/2 hour plane flight and not come back. Oh yeah thats already in progress.
Lower wages, reduced consumer spending, businesses will eventually feel the feedback from less money in peoples’ pockets.
Brilliant NACT growth strategy if I ever saw one.
Loota exactly what is your reasoning that it will drive down wages..?
@Loota – what would make people go to Australia? Under the Australian Labor party there is a one year probationary period! Clearly they see the merits it provides for worker, otherwise why else would the Australian labor party have a one year probationary period?
The whole point of the fire@will bill is to lower wages just as John Key said he wanted.
It gives employers a bigger stick to threaten employees with making them fearful for their jobs and their income.
Maybe I’m a bit dim today but how does that translate to lower wages, are the majority of people who have been in their current job over 90 days going to get called into the bosses office and told they have to take lower wages..?
People are still going to go for the jobs with the highest wages, even with this condition of employment, so upwards wage pressure will still exist in moderate to excellent economic times, I fail to see how this will change anything…
Draco TB have you completed your homework yet you naught boy ?
Oliver siad:
The Oz employee probationary period is not anywhere equivalent to a one year right to fire, thanks.
Its not lowering wages in the current job necessarily, its the ability to demand wage increases in your current job or move to another higher paying job.
i.e. the reduction of employee mobility is one main aim of the 90 day right to fire.
Say you are on $15 per hour now. You would like to change positions to one at another firm which is offering $18/hr.
But you know the moment you change jobs you will be subject to the 90 day right to fire, and risk ending up with neither the $15/hr job or the $18/hr job.
So you stay put. You could also push to get $18/hr at your current workplace. But the boss comes back and says – this is all we are paying you, if you want more, go get a new job somewhere else.
Kevin Watch asks – `what will Labour do about it…….’?
Kevin it depends who is in charge as Phil Goff says he will keep it, Andrew Little will scrap it and we haven’t heard yet from other wannabe’ David Cunliffe or Maryanne Street.
Loota – the sooner the minimum wage goes and youth rates are brought back the more there will be employed.
Phil G
FF will scrap it!
And good ol’ Andrew Little will be happy with that!
I’ve met Andrew Little
@ Kevin Welsh – Labour will repeal. And there will be a comprehensive employment relations policy – the October conference will see a paper that discusses what will be a pretty major package.
And Loota gets it. People will also be pushed to give up leave as well as the meal breaks that the government is taking away.
Why is no one saying what this will do to hard to staff parts of the coutry. Not everyone lives in Dorkland.
People will not move to take up a job in a rural area if they have the chance of loosing there job once they have settled in to a new area. Imagine selling up, moving your family and all the cost involved and then loosing your job without reason.
We have enough problems getting Gp’s, Teachers, Trades people in the provences.