When primary and intermediate school age kids take drugs to school then I think CYFS and the Youth Aid section of the Police should be notified. They might choose to take no action but sometimes the information can provide the vital link that might turn a kid’s life around. Or bust a “P” ring.
Anne Tolley disagrees and thinks every Board of Trutees in the country should have a different policy.
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Bleep me, is she on the backy herself? I agree Trev that the drug pushing kids should be kicked out!
What a classic example of how out of touch she is with what happens in schools! Pity Parliament is in recess!
There might be good reasons for not kicking a kid out of school – what happens is and should be a board decision – but my point Spud is that Police and CYFS should know about it.
Agreed! Leave the kid in school and imprison the supplier of the 1kg. Possession, dealing and enslaving a minor into intergenerational ‘matrix of disfunctionalty’… Parekura had it right. Up to BoT to use discretion??!! blah too airy fairy.
Tolley: “Boards manage schools and develop their own policies – and most would notify the police or CYF in the event of a drugs issue. That’s a commonsense approach – and schools shouldn’t need the Government to tell them that.”
Um, yes they should if it means drugs in schools will go unreported. Which they will for a variety of reasons.
And unsure why National Standards are such a big deal to someone who now thinks commonsense is sufficient…
I’m a bit more miffed about the fact that the school inferred that there was no drugs problem as all of the area’s schools had drug problems
“Rogers said there wasn’t a drug problem at Manurewa.
“You can go to schools anywhere and you can see students selling to students,” he said.”- School Board Chairman
- NZ Herald
That’s either a fail of wording on his part or this schools own board of trustees has given up…even in low decile school areas there, the fact soem ubcle, brother etc gave the kid the drugs is bad enough but if the school’s are not willing to go after and really crackdown on dealers these kdis arne’t going to have much of a future.
I’m not sure about Hon.Anne Tolley’s choice to let each school have their own policy but thing sot tak einto account are the differing teaching practises and cultural backgroudns at eachs chool so obviously the sam methods would not work with each case….I would like to see a nice broad guideline or perhaps a Hip cool young Peck group of people to go around schools saying that it isn’t awesome to sell a kg of drugs even if your uncle offers you a Gameboy for it and that maybe also some more good interactive Youth Constables are needed to take a class or two at these places if so many schools have drug sellers …sigh..12… I remeber when bringing a bag of lollies was a bad thing to do at school and that wasn’t long ago..
LOL
I remember the anti drinking / drugs theatre in schools visits (always fun to get out of class). And on the school’s anti drugs day the amusement of watching one of the biggest stoners in the school singing a self written song about how it’s not worth it to take drugs 
How can the school NOT report to police when a crime has/is being committed?
What are they supposed to do, confiscate the weed for incineration upwind of the next National Standards meeting to mellow things out?
Surely the school would have to notify the child’s parent/s or guardian/s. I’d want the police backing me up for that conversation!!
And high-decile schools aren’t off the hook either.
Auckland Grammar
Takapuna Grammar
King’s College
Of course there were no drugs in primary scholls under your watch Trevor!!
Dream on.
Ugh, Tolley. She came to my school a few days ago, took the most time I’ve ever heard someone take to say essentially nothing. And now this. Ridiculous.
How can we solve the problem if we don’t even know where it’s started? Clearly she operates under the delusion that if we ignore something and pretend it doesn’t exist then it won’t exist. How on earth can she think that PRIMARY SCHOOL AGED KIDS dealing drugs is something just to “be dealt with at the BoT’s discretion”?
“Ugh, Tolley. She came to my school a few days ago” My sympathy
Cheers Spud
It was great though, the teachers were all dressed in black, wearing little badges with either “Value Education”, “Value Students” or “Value Teachers” on them. Legends
Elia – perhaps it is time to follow the guidelines set by your employer and stop `toying’ with the Education of the countries children.
@pdm If what happens when the teachers follow the Ministry-provided reporting template is anything to go by I pity the teachers walking the tight-rope of Tolley’s ‘guidelines’.
pdm – Perhaps it is time that teachers were appreciated by their “employers”. I know for a fact that my teachers are slogging their guts out, and have done all the time I’ve been at school, they deserve far better than what National is currently offering them.
Toying with the education of the country’s chidren? Pfft, that’s what National is doing, they don’t need help from anybody else!
In case you haven’t inferred by now pdm, I’m not a teacher, a student, therefore not employed by Anne Tolley or anyone else connected to the Ministry of Education
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Relaxed Rubbish Reasoning
Hypocrisy at its best, or worst….
So.. Tolley thinks that school’s can self manage the issue of drugs, but that they are unable to appoint Principals, appraise principals,refer Vision for the profession.
If there was a NATIONAL STANDARD for logic or indeed common sense she would be well below… Drugs are a criminal offence the end. Criminal offences MUST be reported to the POLICE. This is not negotiable, same as assaults etc, schools are not exempt to the laws within NZ and all schools are aware of this. To not do so sends the wrong messages to students and parents.
If drugs are rife then it’s not NS that will bring kids up to scratch but having drug free developing brains.
If BoT kow about selling and have seen it, then stop it. I used weed myself at university and a little after that, but it’s not for a developing brain. Between binge drinking and weed being rife maybe this is why the kids are struggling to achieve and focus?
Parliament had a self confessed pot smoking icon. What example did that set.
Sniffer dogs through schools could be very discrete and mopping up the neighborhood underbelly a service done.
For the kids sake a warning sent home before the such a program began may shake up some parents to keep their homes a little more weed free.
The damage done by this stuff is lamentable and far beyond Tolley’s understanding.
Visiting VIPs get the respect they have earned.
If your child’s school and BOT members have taken a ‘soft’ approach on drug dealing/drug taking at school, be warned…they are probably more concerned about protecting the reputation of the school, as opposed to the protection of the students. Sounds harsh, but why else would they want to keep such issues ‘in-house’, and not involve CYFS or Youth Aid?
John W if you mean Nandor, he was/is an adult.
If you are talking role models, more kids will know about Sivivatu than nandor and Sivivatu assaulted his wife.