Comments on: Pay attention New Zealand http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/04/09/pay-attention-new-zealand/ A blog written by Labour MPs Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:51:55 +1300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: John W http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/04/09/pay-attention-new-zealand/comment-page-1/#comment-45299 John W Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:25:13 +0000 http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=13305#comment-45299 Colin I agree but when have greed on the one hand and survival ever been curbed by reason. There are too many people and resources are being eliminated. The forecast possibility of Earth supporting more are at the best optomistic and theoretical. Even if we do move towards 9 billion people diet change that we are not adapted to will create massive health problems. Politics, war, greed, disease and increasing break down in co-operation is a likely senario. Having a class of obscenely wealthy and wasteful, controlling politics for greedy ends, doesn't help nor set a path for better global management. Copyright issues may be relatively insignificant in the bigger picture but fairness is always relevant. It is unfair for a creator of an idea to get peanuts and corporate leaches to live off the sales. It is also unfair for a society to support the environment and nurture of the idea yet let it be tied up forever in private ownership. No man is an island nor is his work not built on what has come before. Colin I agree but when have greed on the one hand and survival ever been curbed by reason.
There are too many people and resources are being eliminated. The forecast possibility of Earth supporting more are at the best optomistic and theoretical. Even if we do move towards 9 billion people diet change that we are not adapted to will create massive health problems.
Politics, war, greed, disease and increasing break down in co-operation is a likely senario.

Having a class of obscenely wealthy and wasteful, controlling politics for greedy ends, doesn’t help nor set a path for better global management.

Copyright issues may be relatively insignificant in the bigger picture but fairness is always relevant.
It is unfair for a creator of an idea to get peanuts and corporate leaches to live off the sales.
It is also unfair for a society to support the environment and nurture of the idea yet let it be tied up forever in private ownership.
No man is an island nor is his work not built on what has come before.

]]> By: Clare Curran http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/04/09/pay-attention-new-zealand/comment-page-1/#comment-45249 Clare Curran Sun, 11 Apr 2010 05:07:18 +0000 http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=13305#comment-45249 @DeepRed That's funny. Naughty but funny. A bit scary too. @DeepRed
That’s funny. Naughty but funny. A bit scary too.

]]> By: DeepRed http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/04/09/pay-attention-new-zealand/comment-page-1/#comment-45245 DeepRed Sun, 11 Apr 2010 04:48:56 +0000 http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=13305#comment-45245 A bit old, but still relevant... http://www.mafiaa.org/ A bit old, but still relevant…

http://www.mafiaa.org/

]]> By: Clare Curran http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/04/09/pay-attention-new-zealand/comment-page-1/#comment-45060 Clare Curran Sat, 10 Apr 2010 05:35:36 +0000 http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=13305#comment-45060 Beautifully put Colin. The publicACTA conference is reaching its end and has been very interesting. Many issues raised which need our scrutiny and some important matters for Labour to consider. Shall be posting on it. Beautifully put Colin. The publicACTA conference is reaching its end and has been very interesting. Many issues raised which need our scrutiny and some important matters for Labour to consider.
Shall be posting on it.

]]> By: Colin Jackson http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/04/09/pay-attention-new-zealand/comment-page-1/#comment-45057 Colin Jackson Sat, 10 Apr 2010 05:29:03 +0000 http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=13305#comment-45057 What a pity international governments don't seem to be able to make an agreement to ration finite resources like tuna, atmospheric carbon or fossil fuels, but instead devote their time to making an international agreement enforcing controls over something that costs no resources to copy. What a pity international governments don’t seem to be able to make an agreement to ration finite resources like tuna, atmospheric carbon or fossil fuels, but instead devote their time to making an international agreement enforcing controls over something that costs no resources to copy.

]]> By: mjwkiwi http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/04/09/pay-attention-new-zealand/comment-page-1/#comment-45004 mjwkiwi Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:54:09 +0000 http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=13305#comment-45004 Copyright for artists is easy to support. But most of the parties pushing for this kind of ACTA protection rip off artists themselves, and make large amounts of money from selling plastic eg CDs and DVDs manufacturers. They are the ones who want these changes. I bought a Radiohead album directly from Radiohead, and that's how I would like to pay for music - reward the artist, not the middleman. ACTA is the death knell of a dying business model. Wake up artists! You are getting ripped off too! If I could buy digital recordings directly from the artist, I would. Copyright for artists is easy to support. But most of the parties pushing for this kind of ACTA protection rip off artists themselves, and make large amounts of money from selling plastic eg CDs and DVDs manufacturers. They are the ones who want these changes. I bought a Radiohead album directly from Radiohead, and that’s how I would like to pay for music – reward the artist, not the middleman.

ACTA is the death knell of a dying business model. Wake up artists! You are getting ripped off too! If I could buy digital recordings directly from the artist, I would.

]]> By: Patrick A http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/04/09/pay-attention-new-zealand/comment-page-1/#comment-44805 Patrick A Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:41:24 +0000 http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=13305#comment-44805 Locking the gate after the horse is well and truly bolted. Security and prevention measures will never stop the free flow of information. I'd like to see a border security person try and browse through my triple encrypted hard drive. Peer to peer file sharing is the way if the future. Monitoring all internet traffic for unlicensed material is little more than a wet dream for ACTA. Copyright? Copyleft for me. Welcome to the second golden age of piracy. Locking the gate after the horse is well and truly bolted. Security and prevention measures will never stop the free flow of information. I’d like to see a border security person try and browse through my triple encrypted hard drive.

Peer to peer file sharing is the way if the future. Monitoring all internet traffic for unlicensed material is little more than a wet dream for ACTA.

Copyright? Copyleft for me.

Welcome to the second golden age of piracy.

]]> By: James Caygill http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/04/09/pay-attention-new-zealand/comment-page-1/#comment-44795 James Caygill Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:20:27 +0000 http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=13305#comment-44795 For anyone (like perhaps Falafulu Fisi) needing a refersher course on the abuse of copyright by corporate holders (as opposed to original creators) a good quick read is the wiki page on the CTEA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act Copyright is a property right, sure. But so what? It's a right cretaed to fulfill a purpose - and that purpose is abused by Acts like CTEA or Treaties like ACTA. Indeed the ACTA debate seems to be a a simple attempt by corporate interests to extend the wins they got under CTEA internationally. Good on you for running interference Clare. For anyone (like perhaps Falafulu Fisi) needing a refersher course on the abuse of copyright by corporate holders (as opposed to original creators) a good quick read is the wiki page on the CTEA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

Copyright is a property right, sure. But so what? It’s a right cretaed to fulfill a purpose – and that purpose is abused by Acts like CTEA or Treaties like ACTA. Indeed the ACTA debate seems to be a a simple attempt by corporate interests to extend the wins they got under CTEA internationally.

Good on you for running interference Clare.

]]> By: Dax http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/04/09/pay-attention-new-zealand/comment-page-1/#comment-44752 Dax Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:26:44 +0000 http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=13305#comment-44752 The draft is already public. http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5425059/ACTA_Agreement_leaked_ The draft is already public.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5425059/ACTA_Agreement_leaked_

]]> By: Richard Wood http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/04/09/pay-attention-new-zealand/comment-page-1/#comment-44750 Richard Wood Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:24:03 +0000 http://blog.labour.org.nz/?p=13305#comment-44750 Hi Clare Thank you for pointing to the PublicACTA website. I hope you don't mind if I let your readers know a bit more about the PublicACTA event: This is a free event being held on Saturday in Wellington as a public forum/workshop to address the concerns that ACTA is raising, with the output to be a document that will be passed to the New Zealand negotiators. We have 108 registrations and still a dozen places available. More detail at www.publicacta.org.nz Regards Richard, InternetNZ Hi Clare
Thank you for pointing to the PublicACTA website. I hope you don’t mind if I let your readers know a bit more about the PublicACTA event:
This is a free event being held on Saturday in Wellington as a public forum/workshop to address the concerns that ACTA is raising, with the output to be a document that will be passed to the New Zealand negotiators. We have 108 registrations and still a dozen places available.
More detail at http://www.publicacta.org.nz
Regards
Richard, InternetNZ

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