The Business Roundtable want a House of Lords for NZ and are considering asking Andrew Williams to lead the liberal peers.
The Business Roundtable want a House of Lords for NZ and are considering asking Andrew Williams to lead the liberal peers.
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LOL
Let he who has not taken a pee after dark in a public place raise his… hand or forever hold his piece
For Gawd’s sake..where do they come up with these loony ideas..??
Speaking of the Business Round Table, anyone know who won their University debate on social issues on 24th March? P Bennett was judge.
I hear Williams is a little p***ed off right now
haha well done Trev – you are a comical wee fellow.
Pity about your subject of derision – the Clown of Campbell’s Bay your team calls an “ordinary New Zealander”.
He’s clearly in need of a lot of help – instead of poking the borax at him Trev, why don’t you hold out a welcoming hand and help him into rehab?
victoria university who were in the affirmative. Judges were all National party government workers so result was hardly suprising given that VUW took the stance of booting beneficiaries off. Can confirm Canterbury had the topic changed on them at 9am in the morning.
Hang on, I thought John Key was the “ordinary New Zealander”??
***chuckles***
With a record of peeing in public one can only assume Trevor that he’s a Union man!
No CK, more like a money man because for them the world’s their toilet.
Let’s be clear about this, Andrew Williams is the target of an orchestrated right wing hatchet job. Putting aside some of the self-inflicted distractions, he has been an effective critic of Rodney Hide’s super city fiasco. Pissing against a tree or doing serious damage to Auckland’s democracy? I know which I think is the greatest sin.
Thanks sam… interestingly the BRT see whether police need guns as one of five burning issues, shows how out of touch they are on social issues.
Act and National say and say and have said for 5 years they want to debate issues, yet over and over it becomes about personalities.
It shows Hide is unnerved by the depth of Williams criticism that he feels he needs to silence him or take him out.
@Phil – Agreed, I actually feel sorry for the guy.
It’s just that it’s kinda funny too.
The peeing, not the lynching.
Hear hear Phil. Its textbook ad-hominem attack and malignment via a contrived media scandal.
Compared to the antics of The National Party President, Williams is a saint.
Of Course Key is 100% behind him when hes one of theirs, no matter his transgressions
Hang in there Andrew Williams and keep fighting NACT hard on the Super City — that’s the real issue!
@ Cactus – not a unionist. I think Tau is the only one of those not in Labour. Would tell the story of his leaving union but would prefer him to stay as a tory MP. Keeps their average up.
Clearly, all public officials who have ever urinated outside, in the dark, must now resign. Also all journalists who have done the same. No, make that anyone.
Then we can move on to those who have been drunk in public – in a TV studio, for example. Can we start with ACT MPs?
Set up the House Committee on Un-New Zealand Activities, and let the purges begin …
Who is paying the bill to have AW followed 24/7? I didn’t think the Herald had the budget? Is ACT paying a PI who calls Granny everytime somebody who disagrees with them takes a leak? And what sort of country have we become for mayors to be subject to this scutiny? The future is starting to look very very scary.
Phil Twyford
Interesting spin however I don’t recall when the VRWC have purchased the SST or it’s reporters.
If you want conspiracy I think you should focus on why you still have no electorate candidacy in the Labour Party despite how many tries now?
Is that an orchestrated right wing hatchet job as well?
The mans clearly got a problem, this is just the latest in a long line of “incidents”
I remember back in 2009 I think when he went off the deep end in Devonport and took a swing at a couple of St John ambulance personnel.
Cactus Kate I think you’ve cracked it – everyone knows Trev and Phil are well to the right of John Key.
Phil does a great job LEAVE HIM ALONE!
Phil has done nothing wrong.
And it’s true that Williams wouldn’t be the first or last to have a leek in public.
Me right of Key – what r girls on up north?
@N otherngirl WTF?
House of Lords over my dead body
Lord Pomme de Terre
“Phil does a great job LEAVE HIM ALONE! Phil has done nothing wrong”.
If that’s the case then why hasn’t he got his own electorate yet from the Labour Party?
There have been a couple of false assertions about the Business Roundtable debate series.
1) Paula Bennett was not the judge – she was part of a panel discussion after the event.
2) The judges were not all National Party staffers. One works as a Ministerial Advisor. He also happens to be one of the most respected judges in New Zealand, and has even adjudicated thew Worlds Final.
Debating has judges from all over the political spectrum. The whole point of judging is that you judge the debate in front of you, not deliver a result consistent with your own thoughts.
There were three judges. The other two have no affiliation with National, and I would suggest that at least one would be quite offended at that notion.
3) Canterbury never had the motion changes on them – that topic had long been announced and was publicly available. The sides were announced at 9 AM that morning, but that affected both myself (who was part of the Victoria University team), and Canterbury.
4) The Roundtable specifically said that they had no established position on whether the police should carry guns.
I was part of the debate series, so that’s how I know those things. I am sure that my credibility will be attacked because I happen to work part time as an EA in the ACT Party.
We had an upper house once but National filled it with a suicide squad to vote itself out of existence. People forget that, except when the Ghost of Electoral Reforms Past comes knocking. And it always seems that the suggestion comes from the same sort of people who got rid of it in the first place. Go figure that one out!
you have to admire CK’s persistence, if not her logic, trying to get traction with a failed line. (BTW no-one has the power to “give” someone an electorate and ain’t it great that there is such a depth of talent to choose from?)
Meanwhile, back on the actual topic, why stop at a House of Lords – why not bring back feudalism? It worked well for centuries…
@ Cactus – No I think you’ll find that is a vast LEFT wing conspiracy.
I have a remit for a Senate but I’m keeping it close to my chest. I’m worried that if I leak it, people like David Farrar would call me “divisive” and “against democracy”.
David Parker if you’re out there, you’ll be receiving it very shortly. I’ve just to put some finishing touches to it.
Btw the House of Lords idea is just hysterical. I want to be called Viscount Martin of Dannevirke!!
No idea why a leek by a tree would be problem. The Welsh might object at the waste.
I believe that Andrew is due to present evidence of the $2billion tax take to the Mayoral forum on Wednesday.(?)
If I was present would the leek interfere with the facts? Might even underline it.
It’s been reported on TV that Andrew Williams is going to make any important announcement this (Tues) afternoon.
Does anyone have any idea what that may be?
I hope he’s going to say that he’s going to fight for his job!
I doubt it though 
@Cactus – Irrelevant as far as I’m concerned because he does a good job!
Anyway this Twyford bashing is off topic, let’s get back to Williams!
StephenW
Thanks for the correction. I misread. Thanks for the correction.
“grand final to be hosted by Minister for Social Development Hon Paula Bennett”
It’s still interesting to see which 5 issues the BRT considers are the BIG ones.
Back to Williams. I understand the Mayoral forum was yesterday. Where he was tabling the Covec report. Hopefully his announcement today will be, or include that report being made public.
I hope Andrew Williams is not going to announce he’s standing for Super Mayor! That’ll play into the right’s hands by splitting Len’s votes.
But I got a funny feeling that’s what he’s probably going to do
@Clare Curran 9:43pm
Your choice obviously.
As a phrase you should be really careful how you use it tho’ – remember Helen making same promise about the Waterview connection.
Labour MPs are always expected to deliver on their promises.
One would certainly hope he is resigning.
Pissing in the public view is infact against the law and shows not only a clear level of intoxication but also complete disrespect for members of the public who witness it.
balance deleted Defamatory Trevor
It doesn’t matter whether he p***es in public or not, as has been said, why not lock every dude up who does this?
It wasn’t even done in broad daylight!
No one would freak out if they saw a dog doing the same, Rover is just doing what he has to do
Colin Espiner gets it: Fear and loathing on the North Shore. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/blogs/on-the-house/3524980/Fear-and-loathing-on-the-North-Shore
The Police generally do, either for offensive behaviour or a lesser more specific offence which from memory carries a fine. It certainly isn’t drinking responsibly or creating the sort of Takapuna where familys can go out at night and enjoy a meal without having to witness that sort of carry on, he’s the Mayor for christsake.
Cactus and Blowhole think my comment of 10.16pm is some kind of confession. They must be devoid of irony!
Dexter, can you tell us how many people have been arrested or convicted in the last 12 months for urinating in public versus the hoardes of men (predominantly) who do this? I do expect better from our leaders and agree that his behaviour at times has been disgraceful but your line that the police deal with this flies in the face of just about every sporting event I have ever attended.