A Grant Thornton survey of employers in NZ and Australia reported in the Herald, has resulted in their prediction that the wage gap is set to increase.
They are predicting the brain drain to turn into a full flowing torrent.
Not really surprising. From unemployment being 4.2% in both countries in 2008 we now have 7.3% and going up and they have 5.3% and going down.
And what was the difference. The Aussie government took positive counter measures which minimised the employment flow on from the recession while John Key sat on his hands, ran a talk fest, and in fact made the situation worse with cuts.
I’m not sure whether Key knows what he is doing and is deeply cycnical, or doesn’t know what he is doing.
Trevor heres some facts from Statistics NZ for you to “mull” over.
Labour are campaigning against the GST increase (yet being careful not to promise to reverse it), saying it will hit households hard. Well Stats NZ have calculated that the impact of GST going to 15% will be a one off increase of 2.0% in the CPI.
Now let’s see how that compares to the CPI increases under the last two Government’s.
In December 1990 the CPI was 731 and in December 1999 it hit 837. That was an increase of 14.5% over nine years – an average of 1.5% a year,
From December 1999 to December 2008 the CPI went from 837 to 1072 – an increase of 28.1%, and an average of 2.8% a year.
The difference between inflation under Labour and under National is around 14% – or seven times greater than the one off 2% increase caused by a GST increase.
Now if one takes just food prices, it is even worse. The food price index increased only 9.9% under nine years of National. Under nine years of Labour it shot up a massive 37.1%.
So if you hear a Labour MP talking about the impact increased prices will have on families, remind them of the 37% increase in food prices and the 28% increase in all prices that occurred under Labour.
Now you lot.
These figures are from NZ stats so lets see you wriggle your way out of this bunch of FACTS!
@ Matt. Lies, dammed lies and statistics?
Of the three action items to come out of the job summit, where is National at with each of them? I may be assuming too much but I understood the job summit was about saving and creating jobs?
its going to blow out even further with the emissions scam kicking in in July. 10% and more craftily tacked onto everyones power and fuel isn’t going to help anyone save as Key says is it.
Sigh, sounds about right.
Trevor. you are right. we can’t close any gap if we are taxing people more. also nobody appears to be telling the truth (not uncommon as we know) to low and super. including us on the bus trip. this relates to closing the gap also.
direct questions for you.
a) when will someone be telling low and super they are in for high power and fuel price shocks come july 1 from ets?
b) if we are campaigning for a halt on gst rise we must then campaign with a promise to remove the scam of ets? or we face contradicting ourselves. will we be campaigning to remove ets?
c) when to both?
thank you
Who is this we simon? I’m not a troll.
Matt – Might also like to compare the wage raises & employment rates by industry type. You seem to have missed the point that this blog was about incomes not expenses.
i don’t understand what you mean.
The post was about what has happened since 2008. Some people seem to think that re-fighting the last election is the way to determine policy for the future.
Modest tax cuts would have been OK – that is after all what Labor in Australia did. The difference is that they gave cuts where they would improve the economy and hence every Australian – our government took from the many to give to the few; and are proposing to do it again.
On a different subject, the red on red is a bit hard to read.
trevor, if we(nz) are to close the gap with australia having ets in place prevents us from closing the gap. australia doesn’t have one and are unlikely to get one. they won’t be punishing business, low and super for it.
all we of us want to know is if we (labour and those interested in doing this, if that is what you mean by we??????) are you/we going to be calling to remove the emissions scam to help us close the gap and help prevent hurting our low and super? ? ?
thats all. thanks
Simon, Are you denying climate change or do you just see a much better way of tacking the problem than giving money to the govt consolidated fund?
P.S. I would be in part two.
Climate change is gore’s way of covering up his own fraud.
Warming? The full blown concept that man causes warming appears not to exist to any significant level. Niwa have admitted they faked things. Un, phil jones and all those crooks have been exposed. It stinks. Yes pollution is poor form. money as an method to fix this. No way. ridiculous connection. the public know this. Nasa agree money is not a fix.
my question then returns to the economic harm we do to ourselves. Are we closing the gap or not. I’m worried about the polling as we contradict ourselves again. So, part two, yes. Needs thought on what the problem is before we hurt low and super. These people we are trying to re convince on bus tours.
my question to trevor was simple as the government are conning us are we going to cancel this ETS nonsense or not?
@ simon
Strontiumdog, if you’re going to be offensive you know what will happen. Clare
what is @ simon? strontidog?
wot. all i want to know is if nz is going to be a viable place to do business. if i or we continue to support labour is it our policy to remove the ets as a our campaign logic?
Simon – Bro 98% of the scientists that have studied the subject have concluded that the globe is warming, at a time when we expect it to be cooling. You should be looking harder at the deniers who select one year in 20 to ‘prove’ their case and take proper peer reviews/critiques and discussions between as evidence of a fraud when it should prove there is no whitewash or attempt to prove a point until the data is scrutinized.
We do agree I think the worlds Politicians have seen a way to increase tax takes and sell it to people, without having a program to mitigate effects. Personally I think we should have UN buy new tech rights and distribute these to China (seen the air quality there in the olympics) etc, so they don’t need new oil & coal power plants.
my god. god needs to intervene. quickly.
Jeremy, before god intervenes, the lead scientist Mr Phil Jones, the main man, has come out and said there is no warming. the UN have said the same. I’m not a denier or alarmist. We agree on one thing however, punishing people with $ will do nothing. this is the point i raise. the seas are not rising. the ice capes are growing. the fraud is out there. my business is in the firing line. my grandpa has his power bill to pay and wants to keep warm this winter (whilst it gets cooler). all i want to know from Trevor Mallard, who I have or had some respect for (and voted for), is how we will close the gap with australia if are going to rape low and super for 10% + on ETS???
are we going to run a campaign to close this down or not? yes or now. trevor?
You do sound like you deny global warming though. Best I leave this subject for someone else though.
My understanding though was that at election time Labors ETS was designed to make big polluters pay, or buy credits off the mitigating industries (eg trees). Now the Nats have nationalised the trees in my back yard (yes covered with natives & merges into regional park) (yes the councils have sampled and averaged the number of trees in each city) and got the country (taxpayer) to pay for the polluters. And in addition (except Maori) they charge forestry to cut trees, then reimburse as they plant more (cashflow issues there).
Not sure Labor has updated the policy since the election, but have done a lot of talking & listening.
Just to make it clear simon I will not become a climate change denier to get your vote. And if you go off thread again I will delete your comments.
trevor, i am quite puzzled by the tone and i now understand what you mean by troll. that is very offensive to be honest.
this also suggests a lot to me about the charecter of the issue and closing the gap. & in relation to no one being upfront about the points i raise. as i raise them out of concern to the thread and general polling. that is a pity.
for what its worth i’m not a denier. i just do not see, like nasa, how we can ever close the gap by taxing people more when the aussies are doing the opposite, fair point?
particularly, when the more doesn’t solve the problem and continues to shed us public support (and I mean us). incredibly frustrating
There is a difference between denying global warming, and believing there is no supportable proof HUMANS have warmed the earth. That is how I understand the so-called “deniers”.
To close the wage gap with Australia would require measures this Govt wont take… accepting strong unions lead to strong minimum wage and benefits in the workplace.
I do take Simon’s point about the science, I’m a fence sitter myself.
Heya Spud
I dont actually care what reason prompts us to pollute less as humans… it’s about time we humans decided to stop using the planet as a toilet. HOWEVER that, imo, isn’t justification for lies and fraud, if that is being perpetrated.