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	<title>Comments on: Joyce perpetuating myths on student loan scheme</title>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/20/joyce-perpetuating-myths-on-student-loan-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-32188</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We live in a real world and we are real people, therefore saying how it will affect us in reality is something that naturally happens. No matter how depressing it is, it is reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in a real world and we are real people, therefore saying how it will affect us in reality is something that naturally happens. No matter how depressing it is, it is reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracey</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/20/joyce-perpetuating-myths-on-student-loan-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-32157</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish you people would stop injecting reality into the National Party&#039;s plans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish you people would stop injecting reality into the National Party&#8217;s plans</p>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/20/joyce-perpetuating-myths-on-student-loan-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-32081</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they take away the part time option for my degree I would be out. If they bring back TIA which covered childcare I could do it full time. Sill wouldn&#039;t help with the loan though, TIA didn&#039;t cover student loans, which was fair enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they take away the part time option for my degree I would be out. If they bring back TIA which covered childcare I could do it full time. Sill wouldn&#8217;t help with the loan though, TIA didn&#8217;t cover student loans, which was fair enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul 2.0</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/20/joyce-perpetuating-myths-on-student-loan-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-32079</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also of the student generation with a stagnating loan that is finally going down because of the interest free loans scheme and it is an incentive to stay here and not pack up and leave. I did 4 years at Otago and got a degree worth nothing in the real world, then 2 years at Vic doing something that was semi valuable but really just common sense, and ended up finally working for a company that is paying for me to do Engineering. Because of my work commitments, I&#039;m doing it part time (read as slow as possible) - I wonder how I&#039;ll be assessed , will I be kicked out because my work commitments and part time professional development taking &#039;too long&#039; mean I&#039;m considered a malingerer?  Perhaps I am?  It will be interesting..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also of the student generation with a stagnating loan that is finally going down because of the interest free loans scheme and it is an incentive to stay here and not pack up and leave. I did 4 years at Otago and got a degree worth nothing in the real world, then 2 years at Vic doing something that was semi valuable but really just common sense, and ended up finally working for a company that is paying for me to do Engineering. Because of my work commitments, I&#8217;m doing it part time (read as slow as possible) &#8211; I wonder how I&#8217;ll be assessed , will I be kicked out because my work commitments and part time professional development taking &#8216;too long&#8217; mean I&#8217;m considered a malingerer?  Perhaps I am?  It will be interesting..</p>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/20/joyce-perpetuating-myths-on-student-loan-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-32078</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Spud I know.
They have metioned a big shake up.
Will just have to wait and see what is announced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Spud I know.<br />
They have metioned a big shake up.<br />
Will just have to wait and see what is announced.</p>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/20/joyce-perpetuating-myths-on-student-loan-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-32073</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could look at that Linda. Studying from home to keep costs down so travel costs and can work at nights and one day a week. Have put my name down with PORSE to look after children in my own home but as of yet nothing. That is one way of going about it though. Thats an idea worth thinking about. :)
Now I&#039;m off topic. lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could look at that Linda. Studying from home to keep costs down so travel costs and can work at nights and one day a week. Have put my name down with PORSE to look after children in my own home but as of yet nothing. That is one way of going about it though. Thats an idea worth thinking about. <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Now I&#8217;m off topic. lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/20/joyce-perpetuating-myths-on-student-loan-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-32072</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/20/joyce-perpetuating-myths-on-student-loan-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-32070</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know.
I seem to belong to most of this govt hated groups. On the DPB, Student and then going to be a teacher.

I joke about leaving to go to Britian but in reality, I can&#039;t. I&#039;m stuck in NZ. Can&#039;t take my children away from their father and deny them of knowing him. They could grow up resenting me. He would contest me leaving with them anyway.
I would leave otherwise.
As a student I&#039;m scared of what they could do too. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know.<br />
I seem to belong to most of this govt hated groups. On the DPB, Student and then going to be a teacher.</p>
<p>I joke about leaving to go to Britian but in reality, I can&#8217;t. I&#8217;m stuck in NZ. Can&#8217;t take my children away from their father and deny them of knowing him. They could grow up resenting me. He would contest me leaving with them anyway.<br />
I would leave otherwise.<br />
As a student I&#8217;m scared of what they could do too. <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/20/joyce-perpetuating-myths-on-student-loan-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-32068</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi A Mother,  
Have you tried getting a childcare centre to support you in your training (esp one your children could attend)?  I&#039;m envisaging some sort of bonding arrangement e.g. you working for them when not at uni (cleaner/office/support worker) and pay including free childcare, centre paying for your papers subject to agreement to work X no. years for them when qualified.
I&#039;m surprised there is not more bonding arrangements for students into business/industry.  It&#039;s not hard to pick good students and have a performance-based contract.  The cost of uni-papers are a business deductible worth much more to the student than the large business.  I&#039;m pretty OT now so I&#039;ll move on....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi A Mother,<br />
Have you tried getting a childcare centre to support you in your training (esp one your children could attend)?  I&#8217;m envisaging some sort of bonding arrangement e.g. you working for them when not at uni (cleaner/office/support worker) and pay including free childcare, centre paying for your papers subject to agreement to work X no. years for them when qualified.<br />
I&#8217;m surprised there is not more bonding arrangements for students into business/industry.  It&#8217;s not hard to pick good students and have a performance-based contract.  The cost of uni-papers are a business deductible worth much more to the student than the large business.  I&#8217;m pretty OT now so I&#8217;ll move on&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicola Wood</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/20/joyce-perpetuating-myths-on-student-loan-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-32067</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicola Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t like how they&#039;re going on about how students are borrowing more and more each year when, had they the chance, the would have the fee maxima policy gone in the blink of an eyelid :(

As a student I&#039;m scared of this govt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t like how they&#8217;re going on about how students are borrowing more and more each year when, had they the chance, the would have the fee maxima policy gone in the blink of an eyelid <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As a student I&#8217;m scared of this govt.</p>
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