Ten minutes long but worth a look. Could be a good one for a poll as to whether people laugh or cry.
Ten minutes long but worth a look. Could be a good one for a poll as to whether people laugh or cry.
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Oooh, that was like watching a train wreck. (No offense jarbury).
Cringe.
I love how Joyce is nodding in understanding around 9:15. If he could explain what the heck Tolley is going on about here I’d really appreciate it.
Lockwood Smith is outstanding. I wonder what would have happened had Richard Worth not transgressed? This parliament might have been vastly different.
silly tolley.
on the topic of education, something that we saw ALOT of in the video, Does Carter still want Education or something? I note he still has an education page on his website, his PM statement debate speech yesterday was focused around education, and he always takes a huge interest in the questions, and gets right into it, opposed to other portfolios.
my apologies, it was tuesday he made his speech to the PMs statement
James – Chris sits beside me. Always animated.
Absolutely, positively feeble, Anne Tolley.
Brownlee’s attempts to delay were transparent and Smith’s dilemma excruciatingly apparent.
She
hasn’t
a
clue!
Gooner – think it was Lockie who transgressed first – thats why he is Speaker. I agree that he did not let Tolley hide on this question.
Great stuff Trevor.
Apologies for going a little off topic but I remember you once mentioned the strange little sharp intake of breath that Key draws after making certain statements.
What do you reckon it means?
my goodness she is embarrassing! I bet other countries look at us with either a sneer or a cringe – have lost count of how many academics/social commentators etc across the world have shuddered with indignation at this nat stds policy coming here, or how many have said fight it with all you have – and some of these people have been mega stars in terms of education and the world stage. It just makes me despair at how bad she is and how much a train wreck this govt is when it comes to education!!
big ups for the speaker, and well done trev for keeping your cool – it must be so hard to not walk over and shake her!
Never shake a baby, paul.
a baby no – but rag doll (or is that a puppet) maybe?
Or muppet?
He he he
Looks like Lockwood has found something hes good at. Certainly looks different from the day he had to climb out the back window of our lecture theater with police escort.
Lockwood was always going to be a good speaker. It’s Academic!
Its times like these that I wish I had something other than dial up
Um, can anyone other than the minister of education tell me exactly what moderation is?
Clearly it cant be that important or a part of National Standards otherwise Tolley would have been breifed on it.
I’ve followed all of this as closely as I can – 1 thing I don’t understand at all – why does The Speaker feel obliged to talk so often about his (personal) perception of a ‘dilemna’? again and again and again..
Great to watch Chris by the way, wish I could hear his barraking
Crying. Positively sobbing at the total incompentence.
why does The Speaker feel obliged to talk so often about his (personal) perception of a ‘dilemna’? again and again and again..
“Because on one hand I’m taking this all very, very seriously. But on the other – and this is what I have to constantly weigh against the gravity of the whole gig – I’m just so frickin stoked that I’m finally, really the boss, in a way. And after everything they all said about me! I’m so excited, if I didn’t have these awesome robes to chill me out I’d probably wet myself. Serious face now.”
@Felix, I’ve noticed Key doing that too, once you notice it it is very off-putting… He does it after he has said something he thinks is very clever…
She is clearly confused – National Standards and local standards – oil and water – she doesn’t understand herself. All part of National’s hegemonic homogenous society.
“There is a standard that is national, and that’s the essence of national standards”. Gee wiz, that sure did clear things up for me, Anne!
…of course it isn’t really a “National” standard because Maori immersion and Private Schools are exempt, so it kind of applies nationally but not really…
I watched the video of Anne Tolley and laughed and cried. She has no idea of what happens in a school. I work in a school and enter the data for the teachers for the Asstle testing. Our teachers know which students aren’t achieving where they should be and are working with them to change this. Are our children going to be labeled as failures if they don’t reach the expected level for their age. This is going to be great for the childrens confidence.Has Tolley made allowances for ESOL (English as a second language) students. Half of my school are ESOL students. Hows that going to look for the school. The national government needs to get their head out of the sand and listen to what the NZ people (especially the education sector)are saying they know as they work with the children everyday.
Hi Trevor. Thanks for your efforts. It is just sad to me that we could have a Min of Ed who just doesn’t get it and apparently can’t read the massive amount of work that is going to be needed to implement the standards – much less true moderation across classes, let alone moderation across schools and districts.
Someone needs to tell her how standardised testing is infact ‘moderated’ or standardised!
Keep up the hard work.
I meant to say ‘…. can’t read the massive amount of research against National Testing. Nor understand the massive amount of work……’
Why is it that the Minister of Education keeps quoting PISA as the evidence that the difference lies within primary schools? How can PISA possibly tell us this when it is a secondary school assessment?
The hand waving (dancingish??) thing tolley does around 9:12 is what makes it even worse…. Somebody needs to tell her she’s not selling houses anymore…… Also, out of the 10mins I think Lockwood Smith speaks for about 2 of them. Why does he need to talk so much when the decision is straight forward, you wouldn’t want people to think he’s stalling for her…. Do you ever get the urge to just tell him to sit down and shut up??
I liked Lockwood in that video and he got her to answer the question.
Wonderful stuff Tolley is rapidly making the East Cape Electorate a very contestable seat. It all makes you wonder balance deleted personal abuse Trevor
I’ve sat in many meetings attempting to moderate children’s writing and all have been largely unsuccessful this despite having exemplars (which are, in a way,a kind of national standard). There are just so many aspects to writing and so many different points of view about the weighting that should be given to the surface features of writing (spelling, paragraphing, punctuation etc) and the deeper features (how the story is told for example). My approach is always this – teachers should do their best to assess writing to help guide future teaching and learning – this is the most important bit. Then they should try to level the work the best they can – for school wide data (see above this data is always subject to differing points of view) and finally they should be most concerned that children are actually improving and making progress. To even contemplate that schools should be having meetings with neighboring schools to discuss moderation is ridiculous and quite simply a waste of time that could be used far more usefully. A note too on this ERO report comment on use of assessment data by Principals – the comment suggested that principals share their own schools assessment data with their boards but that they do not share data comparing their schools progress with that of other schools. That is due to one reason only – they don’t have access to that information – and neither should they.
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