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		<title>By: Mr February</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/09/pms-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-30419</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr February</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevor,

Did you notice that Key&#039;s statements justifying additional mining in conservation areas are factually incorrect and obviously sourced from the mining industry? 
Key said &quot;Mining in New Zealand uses just 40 square kilometres of land, less than 0.015 percent of our total land area,&quot; therefore implying that mining in conservation areas is fine.
Gerry Brownlee said exactly the same area on 15 September 2009, 40 square lilometres.
http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Business/QOA/0/4/e/49HansQ_20090916_00000001-1-Mining-Minerals-Stocktake-in-Conservation.htm
Brownlee must have got it from the New Zealand Mineral Industry Association. See this statement on their website; &quot;Current mining activities area disturbing an area of less than 30 square kilometres and mine sites are being rehabilitated progressively.&quot;
http://www.minerals.co.nz/html/main_topics/overview/mining_other_land_uses.html

Jan Wright the PCE says there are 111 mining licences WITHOUT resource consents which cover a total licence area of 20,784 ha (207.84 km2), of which 3,019 ha are within conservation land. (30.19 km2)
http://www.pce.parliament.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/4527/Detail_of_old_mining_operations.pdf

According to MED&#039;s Crown Minerals annual report (page 16) there are 508 mining permits/licences.
http://www.crownminerals.govt.nz/cms/about/resolveuid/caedf7ba6c36608d2ee5d2762b0799fc.
If 111 licences involve 207 km2, then 508 must cover a whole lot more area than 40km2!  
So Key&#039;s &quot;fact&quot; - &#039;mining is only 40km2&#039; is wrong - just as his &#039;value judgment&#039; that mining can be done not only without environmental effects but in a way that benefits conservation.

Can you use this information to really stick it to him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor,</p>
<p>Did you notice that Key&#8217;s statements justifying additional mining in conservation areas are factually incorrect and obviously sourced from the mining industry?<br />
Key said &#8220;Mining in New Zealand uses just 40 square kilometres of land, less than 0.015 percent of our total land area,&#8221; therefore implying that mining in conservation areas is fine.<br />
Gerry Brownlee said exactly the same area on 15 September 2009, 40 square lilometres.<br />
<a href="http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Business/QOA/0/4/e/49HansQ_20090916_00000001-1-Mining-Minerals-Stocktake-in-Conservation.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Business/QOA/0/4/e/49HansQ_20090916_00000001-1-Mining-Minerals-Stocktake-in-Conservation.htm</a><br />
Brownlee must have got it from the New Zealand Mineral Industry Association. See this statement on their website; &#8220;Current mining activities area disturbing an area of less than 30 square kilometres and mine sites are being rehabilitated progressively.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.minerals.co.nz/html/main_topics/overview/mining_other_land_uses.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.minerals.co.nz/html/main_topics/overview/mining_other_land_uses.html</a></p>
<p>Jan Wright the PCE says there are 111 mining licences WITHOUT resource consents which cover a total licence area of 20,784 ha (207.84 km2), of which 3,019 ha are within conservation land. (30.19 km2)<br />
<a href="http://www.pce.parliament.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/4527/Detail_of_old_mining_operations.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.pce.parliament.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/4527/Detail_of_old_mining_operations.pdf</a></p>
<p>According to MED&#8217;s Crown Minerals annual report (page 16) there are 508 mining permits/licences.<br />
<a href="http://www.crownminerals.govt.nz/cms/about/resolveuid/caedf7ba6c36608d2ee5d2762b0799fc" rel="nofollow">http://www.crownminerals.govt.nz/cms/about/resolveuid/caedf7ba6c36608d2ee5d2762b0799fc</a>.<br />
If 111 licences involve 207 km2, then 508 must cover a whole lot more area than 40km2!<br />
So Key&#8217;s &#8220;fact&#8221; &#8211; &#8216;mining is only 40km2&#8242; is wrong &#8211; just as his &#8216;value judgment&#8217; that mining can be done not only without environmental effects but in a way that benefits conservation.</p>
<p>Can you use this information to really stick it to him?</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/09/pms-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-30221</link>
		<dc:creator>jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely it stands to reason that changes to the tax treatment of residential rental property that makes it a less attractive investment will shrink the size of the private residential property market and increase rents? Some say rents could go up by 20 percent. Any takers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely it stands to reason that changes to the tax treatment of residential rental property that makes it a less attractive investment will shrink the size of the private residential property market and increase rents? Some say rents could go up by 20 percent. Any takers?</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Mallard</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/09/pms-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-30219</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor Mallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t hear it but i know they were very unhappy that I read the fact that Kiwiblog gave the package a B grade before the Key speech was more than a minute old - Phil used that in his speech and I did by way of interjection on Key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t hear it but i know they were very unhappy that I read the fact that Kiwiblog gave the package a B grade before the Key speech was more than a minute old &#8211; Phil used that in his speech and I did by way of interjection on Key.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/09/pms-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-30216</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevor, 

Did you hear Simon Power&#039;s speech?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Trevors Mallards obviously much more interested in blogging than his own leaders reply speech, as Trevor was sitting on his laptop reading blogs on his laptop!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

*Possibly slight variation, but you get the drift. 

Another thing I found amusing was that Jo Goodhue (National Junior Whip), made all the MP&#039;s come really close together, so when one of them was speaking, it looked like they had the whole caucus! It won&#039;t have been viewable from  PTV, you could only see it if you were in the gallery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor, </p>
<p>Did you hear Simon Power&#8217;s speech?</p>
<blockquote><p>Trevors Mallards obviously much more interested in blogging than his own leaders reply speech, as Trevor was sitting on his laptop reading blogs on his laptop!</p></blockquote>
<p>*Possibly slight variation, but you get the drift. </p>
<p>Another thing I found amusing was that Jo Goodhue (National Junior Whip), made all the MP&#8217;s come really close together, so when one of them was speaking, it looked like they had the whole caucus! It won&#8217;t have been viewable from  PTV, you could only see it if you were in the gallery.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Jones</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/09/pms-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-30204</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Andy Fraser: cycleway update? Hmm, I&#039;ve started to browse through John Key&#039;s speech and parts of it read like they have been re-cycled! 

Quite a let down from when he conveyed in his 12-minute DVD he would be &quot;Ambitious for New Zealand&quot;, and when he repetitively invoked the word &#039;fresh&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Andy Fraser: cycleway update? Hmm, I&#8217;ve started to browse through John Key&#8217;s speech and parts of it read like they have been re-cycled! </p>
<p>Quite a let down from when he conveyed in his 12-minute DVD he would be &#8220;Ambitious for New Zealand&#8221;, and when he repetitively invoked the word &#8216;fresh&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: millsy</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/09/pms-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-30193</link>
		<dc:creator>millsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Millsy too personal. Clare&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Millsy too personal. Clare</strong></p>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/09/pms-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-30191</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;m depressed even though I knew more or less what would be said.
Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;m depressed even though I knew more or less what would be said.<br />
Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Akldnut</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/09/pms-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-30189</link>
		<dc:creator>Akldnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just my thoughts (albeit suspicious)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just my thoughts (albeit suspicious)</p>
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		<title>By: Akldnut</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/09/pms-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-30188</link>
		<dc:creator>Akldnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re pulling the ladder out once they&#039;ve climbed up.

They have their slice and now they&#039;re going to make it harder for anyone else to share it with them.

Who is going to want to invest in rental properties now?

I can imagine a host of wildfire property sales coming up, flooding the market with cheap properties, killing the building industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re pulling the ladder out once they&#8217;ve climbed up.</p>
<p>They have their slice and now they&#8217;re going to make it harder for anyone else to share it with them.</p>
<p>Who is going to want to invest in rental properties now?</p>
<p>I can imagine a host of wildfire property sales coming up, flooding the market with cheap properties, killing the building industry.</p>
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		<title>By: ParkDrive</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2010/02/09/pms-statement/comment-page-1/#comment-30184</link>
		<dc:creator>ParkDrive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevor

If Nacts do remove tax concessions for rental properties, it is worth noting that the largest group of people who rort the system are those with more than 1 rental property.
Those who got into rental properties after 87, or who only have 1+1 (home+rental) should not be affected by any tax changes.

As well, any law that is applied needs to take into consideration the number of titles a persons name is on. If someone is on 200 titles, then they should be counted as having a share in 200 properties. Conversely if someone is only on 2 titles, then 1 property should not be counted for any tax purposes.

Thus ensuring a more equitable system and fewer scummy landlords putting rents up 20%. A $66 per week increase on rent for a $330 property? A lot of people will be seething.

Disclaimer: I just have a mortgage on my own home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor</p>
<p>If Nacts do remove tax concessions for rental properties, it is worth noting that the largest group of people who rort the system are those with more than 1 rental property.<br />
Those who got into rental properties after 87, or who only have 1+1 (home+rental) should not be affected by any tax changes.</p>
<p>As well, any law that is applied needs to take into consideration the number of titles a persons name is on. If someone is on 200 titles, then they should be counted as having a share in 200 properties. Conversely if someone is only on 2 titles, then 1 property should not be counted for any tax purposes.</p>
<p>Thus ensuring a more equitable system and fewer scummy landlords putting rents up 20%. A $66 per week increase on rent for a $330 property? A lot of people will be seething.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I just have a mortgage on my own home.</p>
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