Comments on: Another thoughtful contribution

By: Spud

Spud — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:07:33 +0000

By: Jill Crichton

Jill Crichton — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:37:27 +0000

@Jeremy – opposition is about stopping bad changes – but Kaine’s proposal around tax is wrong because it will make it HARDER to stop bad changes.

By: Jill Crichton

Jill Crichton — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:35:46 +0000

Kaine T – while I’m sure your comment is made with the best of intentions not sure that it is helpful Jill Trevor

By: Spud

Spud — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:17:34 +0000

@Paul – Hi
@ Kaine T – Thanks

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:00:31 +0000

An important point from Kane is that Labor is the party of change, innovation, and radical new ideas. The Lange Govt certainly changed NZ but when they imploded with dogma the Boldger govt didn’t change much, just a meaner version of Labor. Conservatives seek to preserve society remember, Radicals seek to change whats wrong.
This time JK appeared to be cool calm and in charge, while HC looked tired and out of fresh ideas. Did NZ vote for more of the same (without some of the PC edges)?

Just remember Labor represents workers and their families. This is the majority in NZ. Labor has taken the mantle of a lot of specialist groups/causes, as these are groups also fall within the working family. All strategic vision can flow from this. Lets not forget that highly paid employees are still employees, and many (think doctors) are highly unionised.

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:06:27 +0000

Ernie – Are we more worried about the health of the NZLP or the health of the nation. Opposition is all about stopping the bad changes one by one so that when the left coalition get back in they have something left to work with (ie no more overpaying for rail that should never have been sold). The left gaining power comes second, as demonstrated by historical lack of a super coalition (NAT & LAB)

By: KaineT

KaineT — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:49:27 +0000

Welcome back spud!!

By: paul

paul — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:31:58 +0000

@Ernie – strategy is everything – and timing is important, agree, but we also need strategic vision – and this is what is missing and a part of what Kaine was also stating.

ps hi spud!

By: Spud

Spud — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 04:15:21 +0000

By: Ernie Smyth

Ernie Smyth — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:14:11 +0000

Excellent? Sounds bitter and frustrated to me.
Worst suggestion had to be the one about tax. Surely anyone with smarts knows Kaine T’s proposal is playing directly into Key’s hands. He wants Labour to attack the GST change now so that when he delivers a Budget that doesn;t have it but does have huge tax cuts for the rich, he looks all nice and moderate. Being in opposition, like so much in life, is about timing. Labour need to get that right and stop panicking.
Wait for the Budget to attack National;s tax plan. Don’t focus on the Brash-report or the Buckle-report. Both are terrible but they are traps laid by Key for Labour to fall into – and Mr Thompson seems to want Labour to dive head first into them