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		<title>By: Lazy Denis Welch &#171; Red Alert</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/27/talking-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-21236</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Denis Welch &#171; Red Alert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/27/talking-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19725</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeremy - Agree about the speech. As for your drinking game, challenge accepted! :-D Election night will also be a big drinking night. :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeremy &#8211; Agree about the speech. As for your drinking game, challenge accepted! <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  Election night will also be a big drinking night. <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Harris</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/27/talking-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19723</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The speech is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW4QXsLbRO0

I don&#039;t see the big deal... A pretty traditional Labour speech, investing in Education, the working class... He pointed out what he thought was wrong with the ETS deal and is putting pressure on National to announce it&#039;s Foreshore and Seabed amendements...

@Spud here&#039;s a drinking game for you, during the election campaign everytime Goff mentions, &quot;subsidising polluters $110 billion&quot;, skull..!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The speech is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW4QXsLbRO0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW4QXsLbRO0</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the big deal&#8230; A pretty traditional Labour speech, investing in Education, the working class&#8230; He pointed out what he thought was wrong with the ETS deal and is putting pressure on National to announce it&#8217;s Foreshore and Seabed amendements&#8230;</p>
<p>@Spud here&#8217;s a drinking game for you, during the election campaign everytime Goff mentions, &#8220;subsidising polluters $110 billion&#8221;, skull..!</p>
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		<title>By: ghostwhowalksnz</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/27/talking-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19698</link>
		<dc:creator>ghostwhowalksnz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile back at the &#039;Dumb-Post&#039;,  rather than say what he doesnt like in Goffs speech,he reinterprets  the speech to say  what Don Brash said&#039;.
Now  he calls labour Mps  on a labour party blog &#039;shills&#039;  for highlighting the same speech . ie the original version.

perhaps the Dumb Post, should look up what shill means

 &quot;shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services or a political group, who pretends no association to the seller/group and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer&quot;. - Wikipedia

Pretends no association ? ,  Labour Mps on a labour party blog?. 
I think someone should stick to the fanatasy politics and not mix that with genuine comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile back at the &#8216;Dumb-Post&#8217;,  rather than say what he doesnt like in Goffs speech,he reinterprets  the speech to say  what Don Brash said&#8217;.<br />
Now  he calls labour Mps  on a labour party blog &#8217;shills&#8217;  for highlighting the same speech . ie the original version.</p>
<p>perhaps the Dumb Post, should look up what shill means</p>
<p> &#8220;shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services or a political group, who pretends no association to the seller/group and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer&#8221;. &#8211; Wikipedia</p>
<p>Pretends no association ? ,  Labour Mps on a labour party blog?.<br />
I think someone should stick to the fanatasy politics and not mix that with genuine comment</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/27/talking-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19691</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I saw his speech on youtube. Would encourage others to do the same. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I saw his speech on youtube. Would encourage others to do the same. <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Orewa-lite reax &#171; The Dim-Post</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/27/talking-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19688</link>
		<dc:creator>Orewa-lite reax &#171; The Dim-Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at RedAlert, Clare Curran and Grant Robertson shill for their leader and insist that we listen to what Goff had to say. Eddie [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/27/talking-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19673</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call it Phil Goff&#039;s &quot;Unity&quot; speech! Somehow I don&#039;t think those particular headlines were the ones he was after, afterall  
they didn&#039;t really convey the spirit of his speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call it Phil Goff&#8217;s &#8220;Unity&#8221; speech! Somehow I don&#8217;t think those particular headlines were the ones he was after, afterall<br />
they didn&#8217;t really convey the spirit of his speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Bea</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/27/talking-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19650</link>
		<dc:creator>Bea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rotary Club...Greypower
Tomahto..Tomayto

I don&#039;t know why anyone has problems with the way the media reported Phil Goff&#039;s Iwi/Kiwi speech.  It got him the headlines he was after.</description>
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Tomahto..Tomayto</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why anyone has problems with the way the media reported Phil Goff&#8217;s Iwi/Kiwi speech.  It got him the headlines he was after.</p>
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		<title>By: ghostwhowalksnz</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/27/talking-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19594</link>
		<dc:creator>ghostwhowalksnz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Danyl is becoming more desperate in seeing the  race card .
Its gone from being a template to being in the same stage of their both leadership.???
That explains everything then.

AS well hes inventing an audience.  Orewa was a Rotary Club function  which Grey Power is not.
 Last week Goff was at federated Farmers, just  the place for a speech about Nationhood, but instead he had  a major change regarding economic policy.

Perhaps the events of the last 2 -3 weeks , when Hawawira made a  outburst against Goff personally might have some thing to do with it, along  with the &#039;who knows what  will happen next over the ETS&#039;.
Then again cunning Goff , at this stage of his leadership, using a template, before a handpicked audience was able to play the race card - by calling his speech Nationhood.

I think somepeople should stick to their Bioinfomatics research, there should be plenty of patterns there to be found</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Danyl is becoming more desperate in seeing the  race card .<br />
Its gone from being a template to being in the same stage of their both leadership.???<br />
That explains everything then.</p>
<p>AS well hes inventing an audience.  Orewa was a Rotary Club function  which Grey Power is not.<br />
 Last week Goff was at federated Farmers, just  the place for a speech about Nationhood, but instead he had  a major change regarding economic policy.</p>
<p>Perhaps the events of the last 2 -3 weeks , when Hawawira made a  outburst against Goff personally might have some thing to do with it, along  with the &#8216;who knows what  will happen next over the ETS&#8217;.<br />
Then again cunning Goff , at this stage of his leadership, using a template, before a handpicked audience was able to play the race card &#8211; by calling his speech Nationhood.</p>
<p>I think somepeople should stick to their Bioinfomatics research, there should be plenty of patterns there to be found</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/27/talking-about-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19580</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are people panicking only one year out from the defeat? The best thing to help Goff is if people would stop perpetuating the myth that he isn&#039;t up to the job / needs to be replaced. There are no grounds for saying this, he&#039;s doing a fine job, and this is partially proved by the fact that the only thing that they could find wrong with the damn speech that it was delivered to grey power who aren&#039;t a bunch of bigots!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are people panicking only one year out from the defeat? The best thing to help Goff is if people would stop perpetuating the myth that he isn&#8217;t up to the job / needs to be replaced. There are no grounds for saying this, he&#8217;s doing a fine job, and this is partially proved by the fact that the only thing that they could find wrong with the damn speech that it was delivered to grey power who aren&#8217;t a bunch of bigots!</p>
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