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	<title>Comments on: Night classes and the value they bring</title>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/08/night-classes-and-the-value-they-bring/comment-page-1/#comment-17312</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JD
Yes academic restrictions ok. Restrictions because of the cut of TIA (We now considered more likely to drop out due to finances) not good. Restriction on studying part time, also not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JD<br />
Yes academic restrictions ok. Restrictions because of the cut of TIA (We now considered more likely to drop out due to finances) not good. Restriction on studying part time, also not good.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/08/night-classes-and-the-value-they-bring/comment-page-1/#comment-17203</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the greatest respect @JD, I am well aware that we need to pull our belts in - but given the amount of wastage in this country, and the Inefficiencies of various systems, there are other ways to cut funding.  I don&#039;t think you have any idea what kinds of cuts are being made or policy promises being kept that cost money and which sectors have not been consulted on.  Did you not read my last section - ask sectors where the savings are to be made - that way people are engaged in the process and it is something done with them not to them.  
As for Australia - no argument there - the way the Nats are going the more chance there is that more kiwis will end there.  If you feel hard done by in NZ, you have options.  Myself, while tempted, feel it is more important to stay &#039;home&#039; and do what I can to ease the load on the communities being done over by the Nats.  As a kiwi, I have a vested interest in making sure that the future for my family is a solid one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the greatest respect @JD, I am well aware that we need to pull our belts in &#8211; but given the amount of wastage in this country, and the Inefficiencies of various systems, there are other ways to cut funding.  I don&#8217;t think you have any idea what kinds of cuts are being made or policy promises being kept that cost money and which sectors have not been consulted on.  Did you not read my last section &#8211; ask sectors where the savings are to be made &#8211; that way people are engaged in the process and it is something done with them not to them.<br />
As for Australia &#8211; no argument there &#8211; the way the Nats are going the more chance there is that more kiwis will end there.  If you feel hard done by in NZ, you have options.  Myself, while tempted, feel it is more important to stay &#8216;home&#8217; and do what I can to ease the load on the communities being done over by the Nats.  As a kiwi, I have a vested interest in making sure that the future for my family is a solid one.</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/08/night-classes-and-the-value-they-bring/comment-page-1/#comment-17195</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kayaking could be good if you wanted to be an adventure tour guide and gun safety would be good if you wanted to open a gun shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kayaking could be good if you wanted to be an adventure tour guide and gun safety would be good if you wanted to open a gun shop.</p>
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		<title>By: Bea</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/08/night-classes-and-the-value-they-bring/comment-page-1/#comment-17173</link>
		<dc:creator>Bea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Night classes I have done:
 - squash 
 - kayaking
 - yoga (hilarious)
 - gun safety

I wouldn&#039;t categorise any of them as job-enhancing.  Actually I didn&#039;t even know until a few years ago that they were taxpayer-funded.  Users are charged for the courses.  I thought they were just fundraising mechanisms for the schools that held them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Night classes I have done:<br />
 &#8211; squash<br />
 &#8211; kayaking<br />
 &#8211; yoga (hilarious)<br />
 &#8211; gun safety</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t categorise any of them as job-enhancing.  Actually I didn&#8217;t even know until a few years ago that they were taxpayer-funded.  Users are charged for the courses.  I thought they were just fundraising mechanisms for the schools that held them.</p>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/08/night-classes-and-the-value-they-bring/comment-page-1/#comment-17172</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Spud. I&#039;m sure they will somehow, I love being a mother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Spud. I&#8217;m sure they will somehow, I love being a mother.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to see such stoicism from Kiwis. According to Treasury we&#039;re looking at a debt of 223% of GDP by 2050 and at least 10 years of deficits and what am I hearing: I want my flower arranging classes. I ask you, have we become so addicted to having the state provide every necessity that in this time of crisis all we can think about is ourselves and what we deserve. What a depressing society we live in if the posters on this thread are a indication of it. 

Maybe Bernard Hicky was right. Time to leave for Oz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to see such stoicism from Kiwis. According to Treasury we&#8217;re looking at a debt of 223% of GDP by 2050 and at least 10 years of deficits and what am I hearing: I want my flower arranging classes. I ask you, have we become so addicted to having the state provide every necessity that in this time of crisis all we can think about is ourselves and what we deserve. What a depressing society we live in if the posters on this thread are a indication of it. </p>
<p>Maybe Bernard Hicky was right. Time to leave for Oz.</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/08/night-classes-and-the-value-they-bring/comment-page-1/#comment-17165</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL :-D - It can&#039;t be easy being a solo mother, I hope things work out for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8211; It can&#8217;t be easy being a solo mother, I hope things work out for you.</p>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/08/night-classes-and-the-value-they-bring/comment-page-1/#comment-17162</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to have a money tree but sadly it was made from metal and had coins glued to it. It never grew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have a money tree but sadly it was made from metal and had coins glued to it. It never grew.</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/08/night-classes-and-the-value-they-bring/comment-page-1/#comment-17161</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, first a circus, now a pot of gold 8O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, first a circus, now a pot of gold <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt='8O' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Eagle</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/11/08/night-classes-and-the-value-they-bring/comment-page-1/#comment-17156</link>
		<dc:creator>The Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pay for flower arranging classes out of the government&#039;s magical pot of gold, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pay for flower arranging classes out of the government&#8217;s magical pot of gold, right?</p>
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