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	<title>Comments on: Just when you thought it was safe to get back in the water</title>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/28/just-when-you-thought-it-was-safe-to-get-back-in-the-water/comment-page-1/#comment-15903</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are serious moral and health issues here :x 
There is enough poison in this country as it is without us  having to irrigate our bodies with it. :evil:

Let&#039;s not forget fluosis from that damn poison that goes into our water. That is great for the elderly. Someone once told me that the kind of fluoride that they put into water supplies isn&#039;t even the right kind for helping teeth anyway. 

The TV screen says &quot;Cracking down on organised crime&quot; - for a minute I thought they were talking about Rodney Hide. 

Sigh. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are serious moral and health issues here <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':x' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
There is enough poison in this country as it is without us  having to irrigate our bodies with it. <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget fluosis from that damn poison that goes into our water. That is great for the elderly. Someone once told me that the kind of fluoride that they put into water supplies isn&#8217;t even the right kind for helping teeth anyway. </p>
<p>The TV screen says &#8220;Cracking down on organised crime&#8221; &#8211; for a minute I thought they were talking about Rodney Hide. </p>
<p>Sigh. <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sean (Bambrough)</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/28/just-when-you-thought-it-was-safe-to-get-back-in-the-water/comment-page-1/#comment-15896</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean (Bambrough)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re water privatisation outrage: Well its been a long time in coming. I didn&#039;t see/hear any objectons when they put the water meters all around city suburbs. Not only is this a concern re line charges and essential service, but also what the private companies put in our water. Rather than post verbatum my stuf on this see rofhessa.blogspot.com (I&#039;m not meaning to promote my site etc) about it (only the last bloc there is on privatisation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re water privatisation outrage: Well its been a long time in coming. I didn&#8217;t see/hear any objectons when they put the water meters all around city suburbs. Not only is this a concern re line charges and essential service, but also what the private companies put in our water. Rather than post verbatum my stuf on this see rofhessa.blogspot.com (I&#8217;m not meaning to promote my site etc) about it (only the last bloc there is on privatisation).</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scaremongering as usual, Phil

&gt; Well, what about public transport?

That is infrastructural services

&gt;Water?

That&#039;s infrastructural services too

&gt; Cleaning up beaches and streams?

Well that&#039;s solid waste services, recreation services and the performance of regulatory responsibilities and statutory duties


All Rodney is saying councils should ensure the basics are covered before councils start getting involved in projects like pensioner housing (which is really the job of central government) or programmes like like COMET in Manukau City</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scaremongering as usual, Phil</p>
<p>&gt; Well, what about public transport?</p>
<p>That is infrastructural services</p>
<p>&gt;Water?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s infrastructural services too</p>
<p>&gt; Cleaning up beaches and streams?</p>
<p>Well that&#8217;s solid waste services, recreation services and the performance of regulatory responsibilities and statutory duties</p>
<p>All Rodney is saying councils should ensure the basics are covered before councils start getting involved in projects like pensioner housing (which is really the job of central government) or programmes like like COMET in Manukau City</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you need to make money from it, open a bottling plant.&quot; That reminds me of the post Clare put up a while back. :-(
Water is not only essential for life, but if they screw it up then it could jeopardise our supply. :x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you need to make money from it, open a bottling plant.&#8221; That reminds me of the post Clare put up a while back. <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Water is not only essential for life, but if they screw it up then it could jeopardise our supply. <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':x' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hide&#8217;s corporatisation shocker &#171; Red Alert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hide&#8217;s corporatisation shocker &#171; Red Alert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we had Rodney Hide announcing plans to loosen up the controls on privatisation of water services just two months after he and his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we had Rodney Hide announcing plans to loosen up the controls on privatisation of water services just two months after he and his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Rutherford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Rutherford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shell game again.Promote the extreme, surrender it, then be seen to &quot;compromise&quot;, while advancing your real agenda.
This is the supercity boundary strategy all over again.
Water is a right, not a commodity.
If you need to make money from it, open a bottling plant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shell game again.Promote the extreme, surrender it, then be seen to &#8220;compromise&#8221;, while advancing your real agenda.<br />
This is the supercity boundary strategy all over again.<br />
Water is a right, not a commodity.<br />
If you need to make money from it, open a bottling plant.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Winter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has the hallmarks of a rapid reworking of another proposal, probably seen by National and understood to be potentially seriously damaging to the government. Mr Hide is, I expect,somewhat on the back foot here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has the hallmarks of a rapid reworking of another proposal, probably seen by National and understood to be potentially seriously damaging to the government. Mr Hide is, I expect,somewhat on the back foot here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not just public transport, transport in general..? Under infrastructural services..?

What does environmental protection fall under..? That is the core responsibility of regional councils (or should be)... I&#039;m pretty sure Rodney Hide believes property rights will solve all our environmental worries but if property laws haven&#039;t been made paramount and all council assets sold, then even under his crazy logic, not including environmental protection without the other caveats of libertarian ideology that go with it, is at minimum irresponsible and at worst outright negligence...

I can&#039;t wait till Hide&#039;s out on his (increasingly large it seems to me since becoming a minister) ass, parliament is no place for libertarians, it&#039;s too important...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just public transport, transport in general..? Under infrastructural services..?</p>
<p>What does environmental protection fall under..? That is the core responsibility of regional councils (or should be)&#8230; I&#8217;m pretty sure Rodney Hide believes property rights will solve all our environmental worries but if property laws haven&#8217;t been made paramount and all council assets sold, then even under his crazy logic, not including environmental protection without the other caveats of libertarian ideology that go with it, is at minimum irresponsible and at worst outright negligence&#8230;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait till Hide&#8217;s out on his (increasingly large it seems to me since becoming a minister) ass, parliament is no place for libertarians, it&#8217;s too important&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: marge</title>
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		<dc:creator>marge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>careful what one wishes for</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>careful what one wishes for</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no! :x That&#039;s disgraceful privatising the very thing that people need to live :x Well people asked for &quot;change&quot; didn&#039;t they. :evil:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no! <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':x' class='wp-smiley' />  That&#8217;s disgraceful privatising the very thing that people need to live <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':x' class='wp-smiley' />  Well people asked for &#8220;change&#8221; didn&#8217;t they. <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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