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	<title>Comments on: Dropping the Ball and Tackling Your Own Team</title>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/15/dropping-the-ball-and-tackling-your-own-team/comment-page-1/#comment-13847</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Servant of God LOL :-D - That was fun reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Servant of God LOL <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8211; That was fun reading!</p>
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		<title>By: IrishBill</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/15/dropping-the-ball-and-tackling-your-own-team/comment-page-1/#comment-13844</link>
		<dc:creator>IrishBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as a note to my last comment on this thread, this from Espiner&#039;s on the RWC flip-flop:


colin espiner   #75   01:40 pm Oct 15 2009

KiwiKraut, on the contrary, it&#039;s always fun when I post a blog saying something needs to be done and Key needs to intervene and fix things and then he does! Not that I&#039;m claiming to have any influence of course</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as a note to my last comment on this thread, this from Espiner&#8217;s on the RWC flip-flop:</p>
<p>colin espiner   #75   01:40 pm Oct 15 2009</p>
<p>KiwiKraut, on the contrary, it&#8217;s always fun when I post a blog saying something needs to be done and Key needs to intervene and fix things and then he does! Not that I&#8217;m claiming to have any influence of course</p>
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		<title>By: jabba</title>
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		<dc:creator>jabba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well done John, thank goodness it was sorted out so early. I look forward to how MTV go .. I&#039;m sure Shane Jones will be as well and I hope they make him and indeed all Maori proud in how well they have done in such a short time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well done John, thank goodness it was sorted out so early. I look forward to how MTV go .. I&#8217;m sure Shane Jones will be as well and I hope they make him and indeed all Maori proud in how well they have done in such a short time.</p>
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		<title>By: Servant of God</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/15/dropping-the-ball-and-tackling-your-own-team/comment-page-1/#comment-13768</link>
		<dc:creator>Servant of God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this talk of dropped balls sounds like the Hand of Satan to me. &lt;a href=&quot;http://dunedinschool.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/john-key-antichrist/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Could John Key be the Antichrist?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this talk of dropped balls sounds like the Hand of Satan to me. <a href="http://dunedinschool.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/john-key-antichrist/" rel="nofollow">Could John Key be the Antichrist?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tigger</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/15/dropping-the-ball-and-tackling-your-own-team/comment-page-1/#comment-13754</link>
		<dc:creator>Tigger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Young&#039;s piece so resembles spin that she&#039;s lost any pretence of independence.

Raymon - so you approve of how Key is treating the Maori Party, like lap dogs and pets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Young&#8217;s piece so resembles spin that she&#8217;s lost any pretence of independence.</p>
<p>Raymon &#8211; so you approve of how Key is treating the Maori Party, like lap dogs and pets?</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@La Grand Fromage - Suzie the waitress poisoning the food?
LOL :-D - I&#039;d say seving them up a dose le Pain (bread).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@La Grand Fromage &#8211; Suzie the waitress poisoning the food?<br />
LOL <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8211; I&#8217;d say seving them up a dose le Pain (bread).</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grant: You describe it better than Audrey. 

And &quot;bimbled through&quot; is about right. 

I can almost see Key, anxious to be seen doing something, reaching out to tackle someone, anyone, and was almost very grateful to find - as he was biting the grass - that he had grabbed Coleman!  (McCully had deftly stepped out of the way.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant: You describe it better than Audrey. </p>
<p>And &#8220;bimbled through&#8221; is about right. </p>
<p>I can almost see Key, anxious to be seen doing something, reaching out to tackle someone, anyone, and was almost very grateful to find &#8211; as he was biting the grass &#8211; that he had grabbed Coleman!  (McCully had deftly stepped out of the way.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Phil

I&#039;m not convinced John Key aimed for that result.  If so, couldn&#039;t the aim have been better achieved without letting the IRB know that the government had stumped up an extra $3 million just to spend on the broadcasting rights, before the bidding starts?

At least it allows the IRB to know where to open the auction.

As for Machiavelli, obviously just looking at &#039;The Prince&#039; grossly simplifies his views: but Machiavelli also recommends a prince should take actions that are decisive, quick and effective.

I dispute John Key acted either quickly or decisively in this instance.  I think he bimbled through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Phil</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not convinced John Key aimed for that result.  If so, couldn&#8217;t the aim have been better achieved without letting the IRB know that the government had stumped up an extra $3 million just to spend on the broadcasting rights, before the bidding starts?</p>
<p>At least it allows the IRB to know where to open the auction.</p>
<p>As for Machiavelli, obviously just looking at &#8216;The Prince&#8217; grossly simplifies his views: but Machiavelli also recommends a prince should take actions that are decisive, quick and effective.</p>
<p>I dispute John Key acted either quickly or decisively in this instance.  I think he bimbled through.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymon A Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymon A Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Grant, fair points
I think everyone except a couple of National ministers got what was right
So what would have you done if you were in Key&#039;s boots
Oh, that&#039;s right no Maori Party in your coalition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Grant, fair points<br />
I think everyone except a couple of National ministers got what was right<br />
So what would have you done if you were in Key&#8217;s boots<br />
Oh, that&#8217;s right no Maori Party in your coalition</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a big fan of Machiavelli, so from my point of view the ends will (almost) always justify the means.

Seems to me that Key&#039;s managed to get TVNZ, TV3/Can-West, and MTV, to hold hands and play nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of Machiavelli, so from my point of view the ends will (almost) always justify the means.</p>
<p>Seems to me that Key&#8217;s managed to get TVNZ, TV3/Can-West, and MTV, to hold hands and play nice.</p>
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