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	<title>Comments on: The downside of state house sales</title>
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		<title>By: Mr Bee</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/11/the-downside-of-state-house-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-30529</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>state houses,  ripped off in to  them and out.---  promises you can  buy.-- sold behind ya back.  leasebacks(plural) off owners, anothers community groups--- You don&#039;t belong too . Dust, mould, holes in floor and roof/ceiling and chronically sick children etc. cut ya losses- save a childs health. heatley and carter  grandstanding --the media joins in-- damaging peoples lives--condemned and alienated -some state house mansion! try picking on key for a change. Another community group-not your own.  villified in the media- big problems!   Victimistion, condemnation harassment and alienation- state houses and National--who wants that. not me. keep them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>state houses,  ripped off in to  them and out.&#8212;  promises you can  buy.&#8211; sold behind ya back.  leasebacks(plural) off owners, anothers community groups&#8212; You don&#8217;t belong too . Dust, mould, holes in floor and roof/ceiling and chronically sick children etc. cut ya losses- save a childs health. heatley and carter  grandstanding &#8211;the media joins in&#8211; damaging peoples lives&#8211;condemned and alienated -some state house mansion! try picking on key for a change. Another community group-not your own.  villified in the media- big problems!   Victimistion, condemnation harassment and alienation- state houses and National&#8211;who wants that. not me. keep them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GT</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/11/the-downside-of-state-house-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-22064</link>
		<dc:creator>GT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>National party will do anything for a buck, watch them sell off all our assets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National party will do anything for a buck, watch them sell off all our assets!</p>
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		<title>By: A Mother</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/11/the-downside-of-state-house-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-17271</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a major shortage of housing NZ houses now though. The waiting lists are huge while people that need somewhere to live are forced to pay market rents. Has anyone had a look lately at the price of rentals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a major shortage of housing NZ houses now though. The waiting lists are huge while people that need somewhere to live are forced to pay market rents. Has anyone had a look lately at the price of rentals?</p>
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		<title>By: Swampy</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/11/the-downside-of-state-house-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-15001</link>
		<dc:creator>Swampy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Housing sales helped many average families get into their own house, it also brought the benefits of having home owners into neighbourhoods of predominantly rental accomodation, the Housing Corp slums got improved from this. I have quite a few friends who have given a lot to their neighbourhoods through being able to buy their state house and live in it for many years. 

For every &quot;slum landlord&quot; case there is one where a family is living in their own home, or subdividing the back section off for a new home to be built, which is hardly going to be occupied by slum tenants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Housing sales helped many average families get into their own house, it also brought the benefits of having home owners into neighbourhoods of predominantly rental accomodation, the Housing Corp slums got improved from this. I have quite a few friends who have given a lot to their neighbourhoods through being able to buy their state house and live in it for many years. </p>
<p>For every &#8220;slum landlord&#8221; case there is one where a family is living in their own home, or subdividing the back section off for a new home to be built, which is hardly going to be occupied by slum tenants.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryall</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/11/the-downside-of-state-house-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-13229</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ryall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Housing is a critical area for low-income families and during the 1990s, with the sale of state houses and market rents, there were some very sad stories.

Labour&#039;s introduction of income-related rents and the increase to the state housing stock was a key move to address the situation of these families either by giving them good affordable housing or providing the competition with the private landlords to force rentals down.

However, I don&#039;t think the housing stock was probably increased enough (shortage of builders was one reason)to get rid of the rented accomodation that Chris describes. 

Slum rental accomodation still exists and we need to look at strategies to get rid of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Housing is a critical area for low-income families and during the 1990s, with the sale of state houses and market rents, there were some very sad stories.</p>
<p>Labour&#8217;s introduction of income-related rents and the increase to the state housing stock was a key move to address the situation of these families either by giving them good affordable housing or providing the competition with the private landlords to force rentals down.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think the housing stock was probably increased enough (shortage of builders was one reason)to get rid of the rented accomodation that Chris describes. </p>
<p>Slum rental accomodation still exists and we need to look at strategies to get rid of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/11/the-downside-of-state-house-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-13192</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has always been National&#039;s end game, putting state housing, especially in salubrious areas, into private ownership where, ultimately it will be snapped up by developers. I&#039;m all for tenants buying houses but they should return to the state if sold. State housing is a national asset. Allowing it to pass permanently out of the state&#039;s hands is privatisation pure and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has always been National&#8217;s end game, putting state housing, especially in salubrious areas, into private ownership where, ultimately it will be snapped up by developers. I&#8217;m all for tenants buying houses but they should return to the state if sold. State housing is a national asset. Allowing it to pass permanently out of the state&#8217;s hands is privatisation pure and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: kaine T</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/11/the-downside-of-state-house-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-13151</link>
		<dc:creator>kaine T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never understood why National continuously pushes this particular barrow.  I can hear the spin &quot;National proud to see New Zealanders living the home ownership dream&quot;... it&#039;s a pity though, it doesn&#039;t work that way. 

Of the large number of houses sold off in the 1990s, insufficient mechanisms were put in place to ensure that the very thing you saw, didn&#039;t happen.  It happened on a large sclae and made some people very rich off the back of some unfortunate suffering. 

Home ownership is an obsession in this country that I don&#039;t understand, in any case, a house is not an asset until you have nothing left to pay on it. Why don&#039;t we focus on developing income, owning assets of whatever form? Until that time, the time when the mortgage is repaid, the bank owns it.  Pushing mortgages and fuelling debt through this scheme to my mind is irresponsible.  Arguably, it is about shifting the onus from government on to the people in question. 

State Housing is something this country should be proud of, it is part of what we have come to expect as part of the social covenant our country has with its government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never understood why National continuously pushes this particular barrow.  I can hear the spin &#8220;National proud to see New Zealanders living the home ownership dream&#8221;&#8230; it&#8217;s a pity though, it doesn&#8217;t work that way. </p>
<p>Of the large number of houses sold off in the 1990s, insufficient mechanisms were put in place to ensure that the very thing you saw, didn&#8217;t happen.  It happened on a large sclae and made some people very rich off the back of some unfortunate suffering. </p>
<p>Home ownership is an obsession in this country that I don&#8217;t understand, in any case, a house is not an asset until you have nothing left to pay on it. Why don&#8217;t we focus on developing income, owning assets of whatever form? Until that time, the time when the mortgage is repaid, the bank owns it.  Pushing mortgages and fuelling debt through this scheme to my mind is irresponsible.  Arguably, it is about shifting the onus from government on to the people in question. </p>
<p>State Housing is something this country should be proud of, it is part of what we have come to expect as part of the social covenant our country has with its government.</p>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/10/11/the-downside-of-state-house-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-13140</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slumlords! Oooh too many stories! There&#039;s no need to be hocking off perfectly good housing stock :x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slumlords! Oooh too many stories! There&#8217;s no need to be hocking off perfectly good housing stock <img src='http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':x' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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