Comments on: Hide and Seek

By: The John, Rodney and Tau Show « Red Alert

The John, Rodney and Tau Show « Red Alert — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:51:13 +0000

[...] I briefly thought we might get an answer to the question I posed last week about who actually leaked Tau Henare’s email .

By: jennifer

jennifer — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:22:04 +0000

Gooner, thanks for achnowledging the impregnability of my comments. Much obliged.

By: Gooner

Gooner — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:31:45 +0000

You must have had a terrible sleep last night Jennifer or deleted personal abuse Trevor, one or t’other.

You are so wrong it is not worth responding to apart from that.

By: jennifer

jennifer — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:41:42 +0000

Gooner, I see Winston Hide has now widened his threat to include all portfolios. As someone said in the House, a win / win. Hide has made a complete mess of the Auckland governance reforms, and those chickens are coming home to roost. National did not cleverly use him, as some claim, they just realised early into Hide’s process that while the public would buy the ‘one council, one mayor’ set up, they simply would not buy his and his backers’ massive power grab. The pragmatist Key versus the zealot Hide. My pick is that Hide’s crazy plans for the local government act will suffer the same fate. Hide may as well resign, because his tenure will have been a total failure and credibility is important in a Minister.

By: Tim Ellis

Tim Ellis — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:26:47 +0000

DPF- whatever spin you try the bottom line is that with Labour there would be Maori seats on any Auckland Super Council, and with National, well, who knows. Is the tail wagging the dog?

That is all very well, Mr Robertson, but let’s not pretend that the principle Labour is defending is the royal commission report as the basis for this, since Labour is advocating changes that are quite dramatically different from the RC report in many areas, including the construct of Maori seats.

By: David Farrar

David Farrar — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:22:47 +0000

Grant seems to be saying that all that matters is that Labour is saying their will be Maori Seats on the Council, and that it doesn’t matter whether or not they are elected or appointed. I think it does matter.

I don’t know why it is so hard for Labour to admit they do not agree with the Royal Commission in regards to their mana whenua seat recommendation.

By: David

David — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:19:41 +0000

Thanks Grant but I am not really any the wiser, do you want them elected or appointed. Is this something you want for all councils or just Auckland ?

By: Grant Robertson

Grant Robertson — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:16:43 +0000

DPF- whatever spin you try the bottom line is that with Labour there would be Maori seats on any Auckland Super Council, and with National, well, who knows. Is the tail wagging the dog?

By: David Farrar

David Farrar — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:51:21 +0000

Labour likes to promote the fiction that they are the defender of the Royal Commission’s work when in reality they want to make major changes to it also. As you see, pointing this out results in MPs being very reluctant to detail what their policy actually is, as it undercuts their rhetoric.

By: jarbury

jarbury — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:49:40 +0000

Gooner, I agree that Labour should come clean on what they’re in favour of. Two seats that are both elected makes good sense, so I don’t see why they aren’t just up front about that.