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	<title>Comments on: The gift that keeps on giving</title>
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		<title>By: Brendon Stone</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/05/19/the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-4684</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently my comments on this thread were all either offensive or off topic

Trevor Mallard says: 
July 29, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Brendon possibly for the first time on Red Alert is correct in the substance of his comment and because it is on topic and not offensive it won’t be deleted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently my comments on this thread were all either offensive or off topic</p>
<p>Trevor Mallard says:<br />
July 29, 2009 at 4:08 pm<br />
Brendon possibly for the first time on Red Alert is correct in the substance of his comment and because it is on topic and not offensive it won’t be deleted.</p>
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		<title>By: jarbury</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/05/19/the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-649</link>
		<dc:creator>jarbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 22:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s pretty much thrown in the towell: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10573871</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s pretty much thrown in the towell: <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10573871" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10573871</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ellis's Dad</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/05/19/the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-560</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ellis's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 19:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rjs131 - ouch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rjs131 &#8211; ouch!</p>
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		<title>By: jarbury</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/05/19/the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>jarbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twyford&#039;s going to fight for Auckland Central in 2011 Tim, and he may well win it. Mt Albert should be a fairly straightforward seat for Labour to hold (Melissa Lee is making that particularly so) so it makes perfect sense for Labour to hold back their best candidate to fight for the more difficult Auckland Central seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twyford&#8217;s going to fight for Auckland Central in 2011 Tim, and he may well win it. Mt Albert should be a fairly straightforward seat for Labour to hold (Melissa Lee is making that particularly so) so it makes perfect sense for Labour to hold back their best candidate to fight for the more difficult Auckland Central seat.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ellis</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/05/19/the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 05:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UO, I&#039;m not sure that voting Mr Shearer getting Mr Shearer is a virtue, although Labour are trying to make it a virtue.  This only became a necessity because Labour were not prepared to put up Mr Twyford, who has a very strong association with the electorate, because Labour is embarrassed about the dead wood on Labour&#039;s list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UO, I&#8217;m not sure that voting Mr Shearer getting Mr Shearer is a virtue, although Labour are trying to make it a virtue.  This only became a necessity because Labour were not prepared to put up Mr Twyford, who has a very strong association with the electorate, because Labour is embarrassed about the dead wood on Labour&#8217;s list.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpleasantly Odouriferous</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/05/19/the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>Unpleasantly Odouriferous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 04:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more interesting debate is about who gets into parliament if Lee or Norman or Boscaswen get elected. With Shearer we get Shearer.  With Lee we get Cam Calder??!! Mt Albert should think about the whole picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more interesting debate is about who gets into parliament if Lee or Norman or Boscaswen get elected. With Shearer we get Shearer.  With Lee we get Cam Calder??!! Mt Albert should think about the whole picture.</p>
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		<title>By: mjwkiwi</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/05/19/the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>mjwkiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point of this photo is that Melissa Lee is either not a competent campaigner, or her &quot;managers&quot; are not competent.  You would think competence would be important for someone putting themselves up for election...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of this photo is that Melissa Lee is either not a competent campaigner, or her &#8220;managers&#8221; are not competent.  You would think competence would be important for someone putting themselves up for election&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rjs131</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/05/19/the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>rjs131</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 01:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moana

Congratulations on actually doing something. As someone who has run such successful electorate campaigns in previous elections, what advice would you offer Melissa?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moana</p>
<p>Congratulations on actually doing something. As someone who has run such successful electorate campaigns in previous elections, what advice would you offer Melissa?</p>
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		<title>By: Abbie's Ghost</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/05/19/the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>Abbie's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think that Charles and Annette are up in Auckland for their caucus the same way the Nats will be later. What they happen to do while up in Auckland, after their work is done, is entirely their business. 

Secondly, you can both whine about process, and accuse each other of circumventing democracy with the selection process. But when you pick your candidate, you are stuck with your candidate...looks like the National party made a bad call.

I think Melissa is falling into those same old rookie mistakes that all candidates have to face. Some are better at hiding it from the public. 

But I have to say that you you believe that Melissa was the better candidate on merit...well, know you can see that her capacity to handle the stress while out on the hustings was over-rated. But she should fight on, because it will demonstrate character. 

My advice to the campaign - take the sign down...it&#039;s just a bad look, and current events beat history lessons every time, so to those who bash on Labour&#039;s past, well you do sound like the nerds on the far table...nobody likes to hang out with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think that Charles and Annette are up in Auckland for their caucus the same way the Nats will be later. What they happen to do while up in Auckland, after their work is done, is entirely their business. </p>
<p>Secondly, you can both whine about process, and accuse each other of circumventing democracy with the selection process. But when you pick your candidate, you are stuck with your candidate&#8230;looks like the National party made a bad call.</p>
<p>I think Melissa is falling into those same old rookie mistakes that all candidates have to face. Some are better at hiding it from the public. </p>
<p>But I have to say that you you believe that Melissa was the better candidate on merit&#8230;well, know you can see that her capacity to handle the stress while out on the hustings was over-rated. But she should fight on, because it will demonstrate character. </p>
<p>My advice to the campaign &#8211; take the sign down&#8230;it&#8217;s just a bad look, and current events beat history lessons every time, so to those who bash on Labour&#8217;s past, well you do sound like the nerds on the far table&#8230;nobody likes to hang out with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Wow</title>
		<link>http://blog.labour.org.nz/2009/05/19/the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator>Wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is incredible reading! I&#039;ve never seen so many flawed arguments since I last read a Kiwiblog comment section.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is incredible reading! I&#8217;ve never seen so many flawed arguments since I last read a Kiwiblog comment section.</p>
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